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December 29, 2006
Hi
Thank you so much for your great work. You are really doing a great
job raising awareness about the reality of Canada.
I have a suggestion for your organization. Since you already have
some video footages on your website, it would be great if you can
submit a video to certain websites which will broadcast your video
online. Websites like current.tv and youtube.com are great for
posting your video for millions to see. It will give you more
exposure and get more public attention.
If you submit to current.tv, not only internet viewers can see. If
the Current TV executives like it, they will air it on their cable
television.
You might wonder why posting on these American sites. I feel that
immigrants in Canada already know what's going on anyway. Even if
they don't see it on TV or read it in the newspaper or on the
internet, they can feel it. The message needs to get out of Canada
and go to Asia or some other countries, so it will have stronger
impact. More people overseas need to find out the reality of the job
market in Canada because we don't need more victims. People need to
know that Canadian government is not trying to build real economy
for the country but keeps advertising to get more educated and
skilled immigrants to come here and spend money.
Please consider about posting videos on those websites. If you need
any help for editing videos, I will volunteer to help.
Sincerely
Bluebell
bluebell010101 @ yahoo.com
links
http://www.current.tv
http://www.youtube.com
I will try to find Asia websites which allow video posting. I can
also help you to submit letters or articles to editors in Asia to
pitch a story.
December 21, 2006
If you are a professional, stay away from Canada.
Especially if you are in IT. The more qualifications and experience
you have the more difficult it is to make it in the Canadian job
market today.
Companies and industry specialists are saying Canada needs highly
skilled IT professionals, knowing full well that there is a flood of
professionals in the market. Some employment agencies constantly
advertise jobs that don’t exist. You can see for yourselves examples
of this on Workololis. This gives the impression that there is an
abundance of vacancies in the market when in reality there is an
abundance of professionals looking for work.
Currently for every job vacancy advertised companies get hundreds of
resumes. They are not only at liberty to choose from tens or
hundreds of highly qualified professionals but have the luxury to
demand an unreasonable mix of qualifications and specializations, a
few years ago would have been impossible to fulfill.
Companies in Canada are not interested in investing in their people
any more so they look for professionals who can be productive from
day one, and can be disposed of when the job is done.
Over and above your IT skills you have to have specific experience
in the technology they want you to work on before they even consider
you.
If you want to get training for any one of the technologies that are
in demand such as SAP, .net, J2EE etc, the costs are prohibitive.
You can expect to spend more than $10,000 to get adequate training
in any one of these current technologies. The Canadian government
will not help if you are not on Employment Insurance, which you
cannot have if you are a new immigrant. Even if you do get training
in any one of the currently in demand technologies your chances of
landing a job don’t improve much, since companies look for years of
experience before they even consider you.
Over and above experience in specific technologies, you have to have
experience in specific industries. So you if you are an IT
professional with years of experience in the manufacturing industry
you will not be considered for a vacancy in the financial industry.
This is not only true for developers who have to write code and
develop applications using specific technologies, it is also true
for managers. Managers are expected to have several years experience
in managing people, managing client relationships, managing vendor
relationships, managing projects that are in specific industries
using specific technologies and the ability to develop code using
these technologies.
This is what a professional who has many years experience in the
Canadian IT industry faces today when he looks for a job. Over and
above that, an immigrant would have to deal the old “Canadian
experience” cliché. This is almost impossible to address, since you
cannot have Canadian experience without first working in Canada and
you cannot work in Canada without having Canadian experience.
Even if you are lucky enough to get a job in Canada these days, the
pay is dismal. Most of the jobs available are contract jobs that pay
low wages, offer no job security and nothing in the way of benefits.
So don’t fall for the Canadian immigration scam, stay away from
Canada.
C.M.
candm_40 @ hotmail.com
December 19, 2006
I'm a guy with a Canadian Master's degree in engineering. I got my
degree about five years ago and
recently became a Canadian citizen. I'm in my early thirties. My
ethnicity is South Asian (visible
minority Canadian). I was raised in a country in the EU, where the
first language is English. My English,
therefore, is near-perfect with no accent. I have been unable to
find a real job related to my field.
I feel that some immigrants are wrong to criticize the Canadian
government (Ottawa). It is not Ottawa that is
responsible for the failures of immigrants - it is the average
Canadian or Canadian society, and the average
Canadian company or business.
I have discovered Canadian society to be a highly politically
correct society unlike the societies of
the EU, but at the same time, a society that is extremely
unwelcoming of visible minorities in the
Canadian workplace. The hate is so evident on their faces. You know?
Just the way some of them look at
you? It's almost like "Where the hell did he/she come from? From one
of those 3rd world countries we've
probably bombed? Or from one of these countries where he/she was
starving". My point is: Racism in the
Canadian workplace is alive and well. That is why job entry is
extremely difficult especially when you don't
live in a city like Toronto. And even when you're in, that's when
the conspiracies begin, the backbiting,
the backstabbing, the subtle racial slurs. I could go on. The fact
is: They just don't want to see you in
the workplace! That isn't Ottawa's fault! That is the racism that is
so deeply embedded in this society,
that the hate that just never endingly goes on.
Honestly, sometimes, I would wonder how much hate these people are
full of. You talk about professional
positions? They can't "see" you working even menial jobs! Immigrants
should know that if it is anyone that
cares for them, it is Ottawa, and they shouldn't blame Ottawa for
their misfortunes in Canada. Ottawa keeps
an excellent balance. I would like to share with you a bit more of
my personal experiences. As a gay visible
minority not living in a major metropolitan area such as the GTA, my
life became a living hell in the
Canadian workplace. I was constantly bombarded, subtly, with ethnic
and homophobic slurs, day after
day after day - right from the top manager to the grade 12 dropout
working with me in the factory. I
would just ignore it because I needed the money to survive and
didn't want to loose the job. One day,
some employees threatened to kill me. They just said lets kill this
brown dog. And then they all laughed
aloud. Now could I go to the police to prove that? No. Because they
didn't say it to my face but they sent me
the message, loud and clear! (The message being: we don't want to
see you here anymore!) They said such
things in a very indirect way but the harassment would tremendously
injure me internally. I would cry alone
when I went home. They also used to regularly intimidate me by
talking about the KKK and white
supremacist views over the coffee table in the factory's coffee
area. I kept my mouth shut for over a
year, and finally, one backstabbing supervisor framed me for an
error made in the workplace, and I was
let-go by the factory. You call this country a gay friendly,
visible-minority-tolerant country? The fact
is: The Canadian workplace is extremely intolerant.
Survival in the Canadian workplace is extremely difficult. And trust
me, you can't live in Canada
without working to pay the bills. Ottawa helps bring tolerance to
Canadian society, but the attitudes of
the nation at large, are entirely different. To prospective
immigrants, come here and be prepared to
live in one of the ghetto centers like Toronto because the average
white Canadian living in the middle of
some other place like Huntsville Ontario or Brandon Manitoba or
Humboldt Saskatchewan or Brooks Alberta or
Gander Newfoundland, don't like your face! Ottawa is not responsible
for ghettoization. However, many white
Anglo Saxon Canadians are. Canada is certainly not what you see on
TV, with all those coloured CBC hosts
and the so called ethnically harmonious workplaces portrayed on TV.
Canada is naturally the most
beautiful county in the world, but as another poster said, the
hills, the lakes, the moose and the bears,
don't pay the bills!
I don't mind working menial jobs because at least Ottawa has given
me basic rights at the government
level (I'm not saying it's a perfect system, but it works well,
because if it didn't, the average Canadian
wood expel visible minorities from their communities with great
speed). Ottawa makes sure everyone can at
least live in a warm room and not starve to death. I brought about
$250,000 to Canada and I intend to keep
my money here because international financial institutions would
never let the Canadian dollar
devalue like some other 3rd world country such as the currencies of
some African or Asian currencies.
(Because the international financial institutions are based in the
west.) ;) However, I would not hesitate
looking for better professional job opportunities anywhere in the
world. I remain sincere to Ottawa and
Canada and can only hope that the some average Canadians will change
their attitudes towards visible
minority Canadians in the workplace. I would appreciate it if
someone could give me information
about civil engineering professional opportunities in the US. You
are free to correspond with me directly.
Thanks.
T. Khan
Ontario, Canada
tkhanm @ yahoo.com
December 17, 2006
Oh mother tell your children, Not to do what I have done
Spend your lives in sin and misery, In the House of Canada
Great website. Thank you for providing a place to practice one of
the fundamental rights provided by the Canadian Charter of Rights
and Freedoms. As per 2b: "Everyone has the following fundamental
freedoms: freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression,
including freedom of the press and other media of communication".
The following is my opinion of Canada and Canadians, based on
spending over 10 years in this country as a professional immigrant.
Canada is a beautiful country with great mass of land and tremendous
natural resources and recreational opportunities. The same thing is
not true for the job market. There are too many seals fighting for a
very limited amount of fish. That is the reality of the Canadian job
market. Very few opportunities, the higher your education, the less
are the opportunities. Canadian society tends to lean toward
nepotism rather than meritocracy.
I lived in both British Columbia and California. My experience in
Vancouver that the people are incredibly rude, impolite and self
absorbed. There is a good amount of jealousy going on when a
Canadian realizes that you are better than them either
professionally or personally. People are greedy and enjoy screwing
up others for no personal gain in a sick and twisted manner.
Canadians are lazy people and even lazier drivers. The crime rate in
Canada is high. Not just simple break-ins but also violent crimes.
Punishment is nonexistent. The sentences are incredibly light for
serious crimes committed. The court system is nonfunctional. You
have to wait over 18 months with a simple small claims court case,
which takes less than 2 months and cost significantly less in the
southern neighbor. Vehicle insurance rates are out of control, as a
government owned monopoly sets the prices. There is an insignificant
number of minority employed by this corporation. Almost all living
expenses are significantly higher than in the US. Housing
prices are quickly closing the gap.
On the other hand there is one thing what counts in the US. Your
merit, your knowledge. Not your connections. Not the color of your
skin or accent is the one which determines your success, but your
own abilities. The people in California are so much nicer than
Canadians. Housing prices are high in California, but compared to
the level of income, cost of living is lower than in Canada. You
choose your insurance company and not the only government owned
insurance company chooses your premium. You choose when you want to
see a doctor. You get service for your money. That is called
meritocracy.
I also want to respond to some of the comments posted by big mouth
Canadians, like "why don't you go back where you came from".
Everyone came to this country as an immigrant or born here as the
child/grandchild of an immigrant. You have no moral right to tell to
another immigrant to go home. The only people who would have this
right are the Natives. People who immigrated a few decades ago had
much wider opportunities than today's newcomers. Just because you or
your ancestors abused the Natives on their own land or in your
boarding schools, you have no moral right to tell anyone to go home.
Every Canadian has the right to express their opinion and it does
not depend on your background or on your heritage. Just look up the
Fundamental Freedoms in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
It under 2b.
Steven
yvr99 @ hotmail.com
December 16, 2006
I love this website, it gives me strength and i feel empowered
sometimes when i am feeling not so good. I would say that keep the
momentum going as what is happening to coloured immigrants in Canada
was a very conveniently kept secret by the government. It is the
recent wave of educated immigrants who do not accept being treated
like trash that has caused the world to take note of what was
silently happening for decades, to the helpless refugees and other
family class folks.
I would blame the government of canada for this as they did not
disclose that there is massive discrimination on the basis of race
in canada (in fact it advertises just the opposite), more so this
discrimination is subtle in nature and hence it is very hard to
prove in a court so what happens is that the immigrant gets stuck in
a trap for no fault of his.
The Government of Canada should compensate these immigrants for
their financial and emotional losses and hardships suffered. Let
this be an awakening that we the recent immigrants of today will not
wait till we are 90 years old to be compensated (like the recent
head tax people did ). We are young educated and marketable and will
expose this scam otherwise our degrees is of no use. Canada
advertised, lied and got the best professional , but you have to
treat the best like best as they are so driven to achieve something
of their life that they will look for alternatives and at the same
time expose this.
Vikas Suri
engvik2002 @ yahoo.co.in
December 13, 2006
I can see that there are a lot of unsatisfied immigrants here in
Canada! Not to mention citizens as well! But the fact is that there
is a free market and if you play your cards right you too can make
it here. You may not be able to work in your trained field. You
might have to retrain unfortunately. I do not agree with that, but
that is the fact. Deal with it! As Canadians we have worked as a
nation to achieve what we have. However, I feel your pain. But, I do
not feel the hard work and effort that I have and many other
Canadians have put in and my family has put in is a shame. So please
do not insult us. I have been able to succeed and I have been able
to do well for myself. It is not thanks to my government, I agree to
that that. But I have made it where I have. In some cases I have
found a few times that they the government has helped me. I do feel
that If you really want to succeed; Work hard there is free market
here and you can open you own business and you can do contract work
and you can look for the tax breaks in doing that.
People that limit themselves to driving taxis limit themselves
period. There are many other things that you can do if you are
willing. You can also change the tires on the taxis and so many
other things. Everyone has to start in terrible place. But if you
can make it you'll do well. Being Canadian has a cultural identity
of hard working people and determination of a nation to succeed. If
you do not know what Canadian food tastes like; It tastes like the
salt of the earth because it comes from all corners of the earth and
it has meaning to me and my family! I am an 8th generation Canadian
of Irish and Scottish decent and I am proud of my heritage! I am
proud of the Refugees, the French, the Metis, the First Nations, the
Sikhs, the Muslims and the Christians of this land. I have friends
from all corners if the earth who love it here and are proud to be
able to live here. Canada is made up of of people who came here with
nothing and have established themselves and made it through the hard
cold barren land. My best friend is a very successful person and his
family came here with a suitcase and two children one on the way as
refugees from communist Czech. He's Canadian! If you do not know
what being a hard worker is then you will never know what Canadian
Culture is.
Every country has a down side unfortunately. In Canada Every normal
person has to struggle to make it and if you are not willing to work
hard to make it here then we don't want you anyways so please don't
come, and quit crying because you have to get a job when you are
here. If you don't like your job then look for a new one. If it's
not what you want then don't come here. We don't want slackers
stinking up our streets. If however you are a determined individual
or family and you have willingness to make it on you own; Come and
join some of the strongest people in the world... The Canadians!
In life if you try to surround yourself with success you will become
successful. If you segregate others you will segregate yourself. By
all means you have to try. God gives us all trials in life. You need
to pass your own and not blame others for yours. When life gives you
lemons make lemonade. In that I mean being creative with what you
have and not giving up because you have reached an obstacle. Life is
full of obstacles!
Sincerely
A true Canadian Patriot.
Ross Moore
rossamoore @ hotmail.com
December 13, 2006
If you look at some of the postings on this forum, you would be led
to believe that things would be peachy if only the Canucks could get
every foreigner or immigrant out of the country. Not true. Canadians
need immigrants whether they like it or not, and there are
consequences that the Canucks have to live with; like it or not.
What you have to understand is that Canada deliberately brings in
the numbers of immigrants it does (about 250,000 annually), because
it knows that it needs them for the low wage dead end jobs Canadians
won't do.
"In order for the rich to have so much, there must be an abundance
of the poor."
Let's turn this phrase around a little bit: "In order for Canadians
to maintain their standard of living, there must be an abundance of
immigrants, and minorities willing to work for very low wages, and
survive at a relatively low standard of living."
The entire backbone of the Canadian lifestyle depends on low wage
labour (ie. a subsidy of sorts from immigrants and minorities),
while at the same time using high taxes to support a massive
overgrown "tax and spend" bureaucracy.
Even the Harper government's immigration minister, Monte Solberg,
has done a complete flip flop on his election promises. Instead of
doing future immigrants a favor by reforming the immigration system
and maybe restricting immigration; he has now stated that
immigration might need to be increased. (A Royal Bank economist has
suggested bringing in about 300,000 - 320,000 immigrants here in the
future every year. ie. about 1% of the population)
Yikes. Where did this number come from? Can any country honestly
justify some cookbook recipe like this for immigration?
But Solberg's flip flop. Why? Because he got a look at the books and
realized that reducing immigration would mean a possible collapse of
the immigration industry. It would also mean an immediate effect on
the economy. Fewer immigrant dollars coming here and being spent
here, and fewer immigrants to do the jobs Canadians won't do.
If you don't like immigrants, then complain to your own government.
Don't blame immigrants for your mismanagement and a corrupt
political system. They are only coming here because they are being
told that they are wanted here by your immigration industry, and its
government.
Grant Buckannon
grant_buckannon @ yahoo.com
December 11, 2006
Hi,
I just wanted to let you know, I LOVE your site. There is no where
for canadians born here OR immigrants to express their views, this
seems the only spot!!
I was born in New Brunswick and it is just like the 3rd world there
now. I just heard that if you don't pay your hydro bill after two
months (which has doubled in the last year!!)- they cut you off.
There was a mother with 2 babies, (one sick with a bad flu) and they
did not care!! Her father (who works in Boston) is writing the local
mla- unsure what that will do!! Did you know- the local Liberal MLA
is married to Irving's granddaughter- how convenient is that??
unreal!! Irving is the worst employer is canada- he treats his
employees just awful.. There are people spying on you all the time.
They are jewish background I believe. Also the pay is half of what
you should get and never do you get a raise, maybe 25 cents!! This
is where true slaves work- even the Irving convenience stores- they
make 6.25 an hour, you would not believe all the work they have to
do- it is high stress for any job for irving (unless you are his
pilot!!).
I also noted when I read about your site- that you stated canada is
90% unhabited, this actually is NOT true. There is only way of north
of BC and Alberta that one cannot live due to extreme cold and of
course the rockie mountain range- it is miles and miles of just
mountains (I flew over this from BC going home to east).
I dont want to appear racist but where I am from - it is about 99%
white and the people half starved and eating in food bands are
white, mainly male. The government does not give a crap about
uneducated poor white males- why do you think that is all you see on
the streets of any given city. There is not ONE program to help
them. There is NO welfare anymore in canada to canadian born who
dont have an address. But I know for a fact (because I used to work
at Immigration in Toronto)- immigrants and refugees get welfare for
2 years annd they get quite a bit more (perhaps 1000 per person??).
This is a seperate government fund JUST for newcomers. This is why i
get mad when newcomers get MORE than canadians- who there are
perhaps 2 millions living in dire poverty.
Also- in Ontario and NB for sure- they cut out welfare for
thousands. Only can get it if you have a disability or are single
mother now. They dont reveal this in the media of course and will
lie if you ask them, but I personally know 5 people who were
denied!!
It is all a sad situation. The canadians are getting very mad and
turning against immigrants due to (I am talking the poor ones)- due
to NO WORK. Look at small towns, there is NOTHING, so they must head
off to big cities where there are quotas and few jobs. This is all
the liberal partys doing. They started multiculturalism- which is a
racist policy!! Just creates a bunch of ghettos that all compete and
turn on each other.
Well all for now.
I am hoping I can get a job soon. I have been in and out of so many
jobs, they are all corrupted and awful places to work and there is
NO law to protect anyone from this crap!!
See one other think- canada is highly automated so that is another
reason why it is so darn hard to find work- they are now automating
cashiers and gas pumps, what next?? There are hardly any secretaries
anymore- i used to be one, but you cant find a job in it for years
now! All automated or people do their own typing, automated
receptionist at law firms, etc. No one mentioned this, look at car
plants, hardly a soul works there!!
Janice Marquis
rigi60 @ hotmail.com
December 07, 2006
I am now Canadian- after 4.5 years here with my husband. Both from
the UK
originally- conned into coming to Canada like all the rest of the
postings
on this forum.We did plenty of research before we came and no one
gave us
the impression it would be difficult to find work- well I suppose
its not
difficult if you want to clean /flip burgers with your PHD
qualifications.
I am making it my aim to tell everyone I know not to come to Canada.
We have
lost 4.5 years of our lives in the vain hope that we could find a
better
life here. My husband cannot even retrain into anything else because
he has
never worked he cannot claim EI, so therefore the unemployment
figures
provided by the wonderful Government service'Stats Canada' mean
absolutely
nothing, because you can bet your life he is not the only one.
Even my 29 years experience in my Professional career count for
nothing.
Well enough is enough.. unlike these poor Canadian born saps- those
of us
immigrants with dual citizenship have options. We are going to leave
Canada
and move south or back to the UK. We cannot afford to go backwards
any more
and be made to feel like 3rd class citizens.
We felt that we had to stay to get our citizenship( anyway we had
dogs and
did not want to go back straightaway to the UK because of the
quarantine
regulations), so now at least we have the Citizenship.
We love America with a passion... always have but again they make it
difficult for the Brits to come into the country.
We are hoping to invest in a business in the USA and create jobs for
US
citizens and catch up with our retirement fund... then we will
probably go
back to the UK.We won't come back here thats for sure...
Diane otto
dianeotto @ hotmail.com
December 04, 2006
This is a very interesting website that I hope many would-be
immigrants would find the time to read before even submitting
their forms. Whoever put this site together should be awarded the
"Order of Canada" title. I propose the award because the site
gives people opportunity to be well informed about the realities
of life in Canada, although I'm surprised that whoever is
moderating sometimes allows people to make the place a "whinefield"!
However, a good reading of the entries will provide some true
picture of Canada.
I am a recent immigrant to Canada. I've been here for 5 years.
If there is any way to do it, I would like to underline the word
"recent" because it is the real meat of the statement. Canada is
a land of immigrants; some came 200 years ago and others arrived
yesterday. I don't think anyone has a problem with that. That is
definitely not my gripe with Canada. If anyone is moving away
from his country of birth to another, and expects to live at the
same level in his new country, I believe he should first go and
see a psychiatrist. He is definitely delusional. I have read so
many mails from such patients on this board and heard it from
others!
I am a professional and also hold a PhD. I got all my degrees
before coming here. I was under no illusion that things would be
easy and I would arrive here to be crowned "King of the Road"!
So, if you arrived here from Pakistan, India, Nigeria, Congo or
Argentina thinking you would be met at the airport by seven
singing virgins, somebody deceived you. I know most
appropriately-educated immigrants will have the same opinion. We
all moved here to seek a better life for ourselves and the coming
generation, because we thought our native countries would not
offer the same opportunities.
If you got here and those expectations were not met, you have one
of three options: go back to your country, go to another
country, or sit down here and fight it out. Fighting it out may
mean choosing a new direction for your life, even if that requires
going to start from high school. If you were a physician in
Bangladesh and expected to come here and be allowed straight into
their hospitals, sorry your education was not complete. A
complete education should have taught you that the systems are
different even if the human body is the same all over the world.
That is the reason medicine men are not allowed in hospitals in
Africa even though they know the best medicinal plants to cure
several diseases! If Canada was the heaven many people thought it
was before they came here, it was an extreme case of hyperbloated
ego syndrome to think that the place was not filled up before now,
only waiting for your majesty to arrive. So, if you chose the
third option, get on with it and make a living for yourself and
the coming generation. Your children and great-grandchildren will
not forgive you if you fail. If you can't do it, swallow your
pride and return to your country. It is that simple. This
country was built by people who had no other option but to stay
here and change their situation in spite of all odds. Imagine
having to farm snow-filled fields in the Prairies 200 years ago.
Many died while doing that, others ran away to warmer countries,
some escaped and returned to their birth countries. They took
important decisions. It is our turn to do likewise and stop
whining.
However, I must say that there are some clear deception about what
Canada is about. There is always this image of a peaceful,
prosperous and extremely tolerant country painted about Canada all
over the world. Whoever is in charge of the National brand name
should also win a major award! Again, I have lived here for 5
years and that gives me some authority to make statements about
Canada. I am Canadian. But, I must tell whoever is reading this
the truth: Canada is not a peaceful country. It is far from being
prosperous. To say the most disturbing, Canada is the least
racially tolerant western country I have ever lived (I could talk
about a few Western countries from experience). On the surface,
you are initially made to believe the hype about racial tolerance
in Canada. As you move around from day to day you will suddenly
realize that apartheid South Africa couldn't have been worse.
People actually target you in every way if you are racially
different. You are immediately assumed to be stupid and of no
value whatsoever, without any interaction with you. This is not
something done just by government, it is simply the way of life of
the people here.
People still ask me where I came from. If I say
Alberta, they ask the question again with the word "originally".
I understand it when people see my skin colour and hear my accent
as a basis for this question. However, if you still ask my
pre-teen daughter who speaks exactly like you the same question,
there is a problem. The problem gets magnified if you are not
asking the same question from a girl who just arrived from Russia
and could barely speak English or a fair-skinned boy with a clear
Cockney accent. Similarly, if you are Chinese, you are assumed to
be extremely smart (especially good in the Mathematical
Sciences) and hardworking but likely to be a bad driver. If you
are Indian, your are a computer guru and eat a lot of onions. If
you are a muslim, and have beards, you are a terrorist. If you
are African; you smell, you are extremely stupid, likely to sell
drugs, you are lazy and waiting for government handout, you should
work in the cleaning department of the hospital etc! These are
the day-to-day prejudices that occur in Canada. I live in Western
Canada and hope it is because the so-called "red necks" live
here. By the way, my neck has also probably become red because I
believe in many of their principles here except the issue of
subtle racial discrimination, something I don't want to generalize
to a specific political leaning. My feeling is that there is this
general phobia about being different. The government should
engage in an extensive educational campaign first to address this
issue before investing in immigration. Take it or leave it, the
world has more coloured people now and they will continue to
appear in increasing number on Canadian streets in the coming
years. They will grow stronger and succeed in spite of all odds.
Please, think of the danger of the so-called "reverse racism" in
Canada by the year 2150AD!
The conclusion of the matter is that Canada is a place where an
immigrant can build a better life for himself and his generation
if he works hard. However, what I am saying is that hardwork is
not enough. If you happen to be different as a result of your
name, religion, skin colour, language (accent), every effort to
succeed will be actively suppressed by the fair-skinned majority
who think they are superhuman. This is the reason it should NOT
BE CANADA for any visible minority thinking of moving to a new
country.
A word is enough for the wise.
Yemi Oyabinu (Edmonton, Canada)
oyabinu @ yahoo.ca
December 03, 2006
Dear fellow Canadians!
I am a Canadian, one of many who feels cheated and lied to by the
Canadian
system, so I had a very limited budget to spend on a holiday. I
spend most
of my money on taxes, fees, and living expenses so enjoying actual
traveling
through this scenic country is mostly reserved for foreign tourists
or
wealthier Canadians.
First my family who were educated business immigrants from
Holland/The
Netherlands were cleverly fleeced and ripped of by a well designed
industry
which awaits immigrants to separate them from their lifetime
earnings.
My parents had owned a Hotel in The Netherlands and bought two
licensed
Travel agencies as an investment and pre-requisite to get their
Canadian
citizenship.
I think that Canada is a type of bureaucratic, fake democratic
dictatorship.
The average people are wonderful and the nature and scenery are
spectacular
but the ruling class, supported by their throngs of lawyers and
media
friends are tyrants and slave drivers.
WARNING > potential new immigrants! Canada and its henchmen are
scouring
the Earth for new slaves with empty promises and armed with
propaganda
materials of wide open spaces and alluring fake possibilities,
because I and
quite a few friends are Canadian slaves who have escaped.
1) Oh you need Canadian experience!
2) Oh there are more jobs in Eastern Canada!
3) Oh move to the west coast, the tourism industry and Film industry
is
booming there.
4) If you just had a Canadian education!
5) Maybe you should get a Masters Degree or PHD!
6) Go back to school and learn computer IT!
7) Learn an extra language, that will help. (Most of my friends
speak 4 or 5
languages near fluently)
8) Oh you're sick and need medical insurance, sorry but there is a
mandatory 6 months residency requirement for this province.
9) Why don't you join a job search club? Oh you already have 4 times
well
this one is different!
10) You should be willing to take any job, and then you'll find
opportunity!
11) Well, it just takes a little time and everything will work out!
12) Perhaps you have been looking in the wrong industry or sector.
13) Maybe you need some help with your resume skills and employment
search
tactics.
Sincerely Hugo Stam
Soon to be EX Canadian
hugostam2005 @ hotmail.com
December 02, 2006
Is a funny Country Canada, they think of them selves as a liberal
and left oriented society, the left means Union jobs with benefits
and pensions, they are the Aristocracy of the Country, you don' t
need brains for this jobs, just contacts or family members, this is
the aspiration of any ordinary Canadian, any thing else will be less
than the real thing.
So they know that new immigrants are far away from getting this
jobs, this has created an unproductive bureaucracy with good wages,
miserable workers (they claim more sick days a year than working
days) and a lazy attitude supported by the Canadian charter of
rights, as an immigrant I support Harper more than the hypocrites of
the NDP or the pickpockets of the Liberals. For the ones who want
and need to remain in the Country, continue to open new web pages,
continue to write and get involved in politics (it pays better than
a janitorial job).
I have kids with a Canadian and have done the wrong choice of having
them in Canada, so if you are in love with a Canadian better have
the kids somewhere else in your original country, your Canadian
family will not help you in any thing at all, they will rob you as
the same of the rest of the country. Many years of harm and misery
waiting for my kids to be 14 and take them forever out of Canada.
I'm European and I sympathize with all you immigrants.
Diane Zimmerman
dianezimmerman911 @ yahoo.ca
November 30, 2006
You overlook one very important fact and that is that we real
Canadians do not want you immigrant foreigners here !
We have been too generous , let too many of you third world invaders
here and you have proven one thing and that is that you are a bunch
of whiney losers.
Go away !!! leave us alone.
We want European immigrants we do not want our culture or lifestyle
smudged with yours. Most of you people we only ever saw in National
Geographic, now you live across the street.
If your culture is so great, immerse yourself in it, in your country
not ours.
We were doing fine till the Liberals opened the floodgates.
Get out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ps. by the way, no one ever gave anyone anything here in Canada.
Everyone who has come here for the past 200 years worked their tails
off.
The recent immigrants have an outrageous sense of entitlement.
Canada was 95 % white until the mid 1980's, and still is, outside of
a couple of the major cities.
You forget that , excuse us if this invasion is all foreign to us
Brian Jackson
sempron141 @ yahoo.ca
November 28, 2006
What most Canadians simply can not understand is that the Canadian
government invites thousands of highly skilled immigrants to
Canada under the false assumption that we and our skills will be
used. We did not come to Canada fleeing from war, disease, hunger
or political instability. We, professional immigrants, were told
by the Canadian government that we would be able to get
professional jobs in this country. We were deceived, lied and
fooled in a very bad way. Canadians have all the right to chose
the immigrants they want, and they have all the right to protect
their country from foreigners, but they do not have the right to
lie to people. In other words, if Canada needs factory workers and
cleaning staff they should say so since the very beginning. They
should honestly say that there are no professional jobs for new
immigrants, no matter how well qualified. Does that word honesty-
rings a bell? How can Canadians ask for honesty if they routinely
act in such a dishonest way?
They tell us to earn our way up? But what have we being doing
most of our lives? So then our skills and knowledge are worthless?
Are they good to immigrate but not to get a half decent job? Is
math or computer science different in other countries? What about
people (like me) who studied a masters or even a PhD in Canada and
gets treatment worse than a Canadian high school drop out? Yeah,
even with a Canadian masters, 7 years of international work
experience and 3 languages I had to take orders from Canadian high
school drop outs during my last months in the country? So Canadian
universities are worthless or are we, just for being immigrants?
And we were willing to work for the benefit of Canada and pay all
those hefty taxes…! Canada is a great country, but only for
Canadians and immigrants willing to work in menial jobs for
minimum wage for the rest of their lives, not a good country for
serious people looking for serious opportunities. What a waste of
potential!
Most skilled immigrants are hard working and very professional
people who do not expect things for free or a land of milk and
honey. But there is a huge difference between having a hard time
getting ahead in a new country (most of us expected that, we are
not naive) and suffer a systemic discrimination that makes nearly
impossible to get forward. It is also impossible to make Canadians
understand this, they are simply very stupid. Even their top
government officials recognize that professional immigrants
perform better in every parameter (education, health, respect for
the law) than most native Canadians. These guys also do not
understand that those German and Polish immigrants who came here
decades ago were not professional people invited by the
government, they were decent people who were fleeing war and
hunger and had nothing to offer but their labor. Our situation is
completely different, we have more options, we are more mobile and
can get out quickly if things turn out to be a scam. Canadians
think that places other than North America, Western Europe and
Japan simply can not offer a decent standard of living for human
beings and are plagued by poverty and anarchy (again, they are
very ignorant), and they truly believe that they are the best this
world has to offer, yet most of them have not traveled out of
their own borders! Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance? These people
get their education from TV shows!
Get out of Canada now! Still worse, Canada is packed with rednecks
for whom is very easy to say something brilliant such as “get out
if you don’t like it here.” Well, the redneck had it right this
time. There is not a chance you can win. Get out of Canada now.
I’ll give you an example of the hopelessness you’ll face if you
stay there: even the most brainless Canadians recognize the fact
that their health care system faces a serious shortage of
professionals, right? But what do they do with the doctors,
surgeons and nurses they get from abroad? They send them to wash
dishes, drive taxis (if they are lucky) and sweep floors, just
like the rest of the immigrants? Ask yourselves: If they mistreat
and routinely discriminate the kind of professionals their economy
desperately requires, what can happen to the other highly skilled
immigrants who are not in such a critical demand? You see my
point? Get out now, cut your loses, that country is not worth it!
These fake people will never give you a real opportunity, not
even in their own interest! Get out of Canada now! Not next month
or next year, get out now!
I sent a message to this forum a few months ago (see message on
February 15, 2006) with an advice I’ll send again: “I'm using
Canada merely as a step and I encourage all of you to do the same.
Take whatever you can from this country and then leave. Let these
hypocrites to enjoy their awful winters and their 'perfect'
country. Well, I did. I left Canada for
good last July 1 and now I’m living in California. It was the best
way to celebrate Canada Day that I could think of. That’s the best
and only way you can deal with these people. I simply used my
Canadian citizen status to get a decent job here. I miserably lost
2 years of my life in Canada, and Canada lost about CAD $50,000 in
me (I got much lower tuition fees at school, health services,
French classes, library services, tax reimbursements, etc., well,
at least I did not leave empty handed). People, take the
redneck’s advice: get out of that country, move to the USA or go
back to your home land. Life is way better here in the USA than
in Canada... Earn more money, pay less taxes, get a much better
weather and get also a little and elementary respect. And they
don’t tell lies: they are not inviting people to come here, they
don’t lie about your professional possibilities, you can expect
difficulties to get into the professional jobs, they have rigorous
and strict immigration and work policies. But in the end is the
best you can do. People in the medicine, engineering and IT
sectors can get TN or even H1B visas very easily if they are
Canadian citizens, and that is the only real use for your Canadian
passport. Lots of people are doing exactly that, just take a look
at the following links:
By the way, you’ll never hear an American asking for “American
experience”, that’s nothing but Canadian crap; their only concern
is “are you able to do the job or not?” And that is the way it
should be.
We have a moral obligation! We have a moral obligation to tell the
truth, to spread the word about the major international scam that
Canada is committing. We have to stop our fellow
professional countrymen from coming here. Please spread the word
about the real face of Canada and help to save lives and
careers. Will I ever go back to Canada? Not even for an off
schedule flight detour, knock on wood.
Guillermo Alvarez
California, USA
guillermoalvarez21 @ yahoo.ca
November 26, 2006
Leaving
Canada, the best thing a Canadian can do.
Here are some of the reasons that I am a firm believer for the
past 10 years or so that for a Canadian, the best thing to do for
your life, career and future is simply -> to leave Canada.
Realities of Canada:
1) No jobs, No opportunities
Yes, this is true. Why? Because the market is completely
saturated. There so many Bachelors degrees being pumped out of
Universities across Canada that a B.Sc. or a B.A. has become
completely useless.
People graduated after four or five years of undergrad and find
themselves unemployed. Or (if they are lucky) working full time at
the place they were working part time as a student.
Canada is a dry well for jobs, no matter how many times you throw
in the bucket, you won't come up with any water. Some mud perhaps.
2) Immigration patterns have ruined the country
Yes, this is true. Unlike the U.S. that invites people to all
places. Canada has people clustered in only three area -> Toronto,
Montreal and Vancouver.
What is the result of this? Thousands and thousands of Indians,
Pakistanis, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc all jammed packed
liked sardines in small areas.
They are working in factories, driving taxi cabs or delivering
pizzas. Then when their children grow up they have the immigrant
dreams, but since there are so many of them in these areas that
all the spots are taken!
3) Why do this new generation stay in Canada then?
Good question. The answers are surprising simple -> insecurity,
lack of self confidence, being very stubborn, refusal to face
reality, false belief that Canada is better, inability to leave
the parental home.
This is especially common among certain minorities that have a
culture that promotes grown men and women to live at home with
their parents.
The culture promotes elitism, where they only associate with the
same type. (Further adding to the total lack of community feel
that exists among Canadian cities. No assimilation or integration
whatsoever.)
This new minority generation has been so brain washed by their
parents, that they lack the self confidence to move to another
place and achieve their goals and take advantage of the great
opportunities that exist abroad. Hence, they stay and suffer in
Canada.
Suraj Mukherjee
surajmukh @ yahoo.com
Coral Gables, Florida
November 22, 2006
Dear friends,
I am happy that that websites like notCanada.com is helping the
point-based immigrants in exposing the canadian system impinging on
dishonest and farcical claims on the international arena. When we
are in our mother countries, the picture painted by the canadian
embassies and immigration lawyers is entirely plethora of lies and
lame promises.
I was an insurance professional in India. After coming to Canada, I
started upgrading in the field of Insurance and now I am doing
Fellow of Chartered Insurance Professional which is a degree tagged
with Vice Presidents Of Canadian Insurance Companies only. I mean to
say this degree decorates the name plates of highly placed Insurance
Professional in Canada. But I am applying for entry level jobs in
Canadian insurance marker but I have not received even a single
offer so far. The are expecting Minimum One year Canadian Experience
which I can get only when I will given an opportunity to work in
this field. No body is ready to give this opportunity because
insurance field is the domain of white community only. I am doing
odd jobs for about three years and consistently upgrading hoping
that I will break the myth one day that brown people are inferior to
whites. We are not stupid but we have been compelled to fight their
mental bankruptcy of feeling of 'superiority of white skins' which
will drain this community one day.
Pankaj Sharma
pankajshaarma @ yahoo.ca
November 18, 2006
Dear Sir/Madam:
I am a native born Canadian and a retired police officer. You have
forgotten one of the most important negatives about Canada, which
should be added as #9 reason not to immigrate.
Since there are no consequences to crime in Canada, it has one of
highest crime rates, including violent crime, in the western
industrialized world. Check United Nations crime statistics to
verify this. The Canadian government traditionally promotes Canada
as a safe and peaceful society in order to attract foreign
investment, but the truth is that Canada is a dangerous place to
live.
Brian Cox
brianncox @ shaw.ca
November 15, 2006
Some interesting thoughts from website of William Gairdner, author,
teacher, Olympic decathlon athlete and businessman (and Canadian):
"Canada in 1945 had a mere 10-15 billion dollars of federal debt
accumulated in the 78 years since Confederation. Today, Canada
carries over 550 billion dollars in federal debt alone, which is
considered “structural” because it cannot be paid off without
ruining the country.
Canada also carries many billions of dollars more in debt in the
form of “unfunded liabilities” such as the Canada Pension Plan,
which is a debt instead of a resource because no actual pension fund
exists. It is a Ponzi, or a Pay-Go scheme in which younger workers
pay for the retiring old, every day.
As a consequence of all this, almost a third of every tax dollar
raised in Canada is used to pay debt. In effect, we are all asking
future generations - citizens not yet born - to pay for our current
consumption, as we are paying for much of the consumption by our
predecessors. This is an immoral obligation laid upon all future
Canadian children from which they cannot escape."
ciaocanada @ hotmail.com
November 08, 2006
To whom it may concern,
I heard about your website from watching W5 on CTV. I could not
forget this
website and I will tell you the reason why.
I am a Canadian citizen born in Kitchener and raised in Mississauga.
I was
born to two parents who immigrated to Canada, my mother came to
Canada in
1969 and my father in 1971, the Trudeau era. I read everything in
your
website and I strongly agree to everything in your website. However
I think
that justifying the cold weather as a reason not to come to Canada
is not
rational, man cannot control mother nature. All other reasons such
as job
discrimination I agree to 100%!
Although I am a Canadian citizen born and raised, I will admit that
I love
Canada for its heritage, diversity, natural landscape, and civil
liberties.
Unfortunately I as a Canadian citizen has faced the same dilemma as
several
immigrants of colour. Yes I have received educational opportunities
and I am
also licensed to work as a teacher, but the reason why I was faced
with the
same dilemma as immigrants is simply because I am a black person.
If Martin Luther King was still alive today, he would have written a
speech
to shame down Canada. Unfortunately he is dead, his wife also passed
away, and
we have nobody to really stand up in tactful radical action for
immigrants
who are ostracized and disenfranchised.
It is because of this kind of disenfranchisement why I as an
educated black
professional teacher decided to pack my bags and start my teaching
career in
Korea, because Korea has opened the doors of opportunity for me and
I owe a
lot to Korea because of that.
I don't want to tarnish my country, I wear the poppy to remember the
sacrifice that our Canadian soldiers made for freedom, but
unfortunately
Canadians are tarnishing our freedom to perpetrate job
discrimination
against people of colour who are either immigrants or black men like
me who
are Canadian citizens.
Now that I am working in Korea, I am living very comfortably in a
nice
apartment (bigger than the one I had in Windsor, ON) and I do not
have to
pay rent as a foreign worker. My utility bills are far more cheaper
than
what I would pay in Canada, and the public transportation system is
more
superior.
Now and then as I meet the people of Korea, I will tell them, even
their
young people that if they learn English very well, if they want to
leave
Korea and live somewhere else, my recommendations for them would not
be to
live in Canada, neither the US. I would recommend for Koreans to
live in the
UK, Australia, New Zealand, Northern Ireland, South Africa, or any
country
where English is spoken and they could get opportunities there for
high
paying jobs. If Koreans ever wanted to come to Canada, it should
have been
30-50 years ago, but not now! Canada's immigration system is in a
complete
mess! Shame on Canada, shame on Stephen Harper, I am so embarrassed
to be
Canadian because of this mess!
Sheldon Walters
formerly in Windsor, now in Korea
sheldonw_7 @ hotmail.com
November 04, 2006
I wanted to write in, in support of your website.
I would like to sincerely apologize for the experience that more
recent
immigrants (past 15 years) are having in Canada. As a third
generation
Canadian I am deeply troubled by the failure of my nation to provide
the
same opportunities to new immigrants that were provided to my
family. I do
want to provide a little context and address the top eight reasons
for not
immigrating to Canada.
I truly believe that it is a symptom of not government in general
but rather
the Liberal Party of Canada. We have just recently barely removed
them from
power and have a minority government under the Conservative party.
The
Liberals were the most corrupt government in Canadian history under
former
Prime Minister Jean Chretien. They truly are a political party of
lies who
stand for absolutely nothing.
I wish I could write in and dispute the claims on your web-site but
the fact
is that I can not. I have friends who are immigrants to Canada and
they talk
of their struggle. My wife and I are third generation Canadians and
our
families have been in Canada over a hundred years but even we are
leaving
Canada. She has her PhD in Neuroscience and I myself have 2 degrees.
We are
leaving Canada for New York where she has been recently offered a
position
and I myself will have a mid-level position with a firm in the
financial
district in New York. The fact is that I will be making over twice
as much
even in a mid-level position in New York, while my wife's
opportunities are
even higher.
We can not wait any longer for tax policies to improve but perhaps
others
can. The Liberal Party of Canada is the greatest threat to the
livelihoods
of all Canadians new and old in my view. They are the greatest
threat to the
nation as a whole. They have created division throughout the nation
as it
serves their interests. East vs West, French vs English, Natives vs
non-natives. Even if you do not agree with the Conservative party
then vote
for the NDP party, at least these two parties stand for something
that is
clear. The Liberal will flip flop with whatever they believe will
get them
elected, they will say anything and then lie further in a deluded
attempt to
maintain their power rather then act for the good of the country.
New
immigrants have gotten a very clear taste of these lies.
Remember the Liberals have been running Canada for the last 15 years.
Top eight reasons:
8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
Again this is the Liberal Party of Canada, they have formed the
immigration
policy and the idiocy of it is clear. Canada needs blue-collar
workers,
Canada does not need any immigrant professionals. There are many
blue-collar
labor level jobs, so if you are a new immigrant who is a welder or
willing
to do labor so that your children will have access to a better life.
Canada
still may be ok, but if you are a professional there is no
opportunity, even
my wife and I are leaving for far better jobs and far lower taxes in
the
United States as we are both professionals in our fields.
7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
Your are right, the price of real estate is exploding in Canada and
if you
do not own a home now, then entering the market at a working class
salary is
slipping out of reach. I do want to mention though that if you are
willing
to move to small cities throughout Canada the cost of living
relative to
your wage may still be ok. I admit that wages in Canada are largely
out of
step with other countries, this is tied into high taxes though.
6. Health Care Crisis.
Right with this one but this problem is very difficult. I don't know
if any
political party can solve it. The true culprit here is the same
enemy Tommy
Douglas had when he fought to create public health care in the first
place.
The real enemy is the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of
Canada.
This body purposely maintains a low supply of doctors, artificially
high
education standards (keeping out immigrant doctors from entering the
system)
so that doctors can continue to have high salaries Trouble with
taking on
doctor's though is that when they walk off work, people die and that
is
political suicide.
5. Very High Taxes.
Your right, but again this is the Liberal Party of Canada, I have
hope that
it will fall under the Conservatives, they have already lowered the
GST a little. NDP may not change this but it is up to you how important
this is
and how you want to vote. Just don't vote for the Liberals.
4. Money Hungry Government.
Again Liberal party, when you are taking money and literally handing
it in
envelopes to your Québec elite what else is there to say...
3. No Culture.
Your right but again it did not use to be like this. Before Trudeau
and if
you talk to any Canadian that was here before 1970 there was a very
clear
Canadian Culture. Think of Australia. We knew who we were, we were a
British
colony with a French minority. Now no one knows what Canada is
because the
idea of our British history was so offensive to Liberal Elitists
that it had
to be destroyed and replaced with another Liberal idea "multi-culturalism"
which is essentially a code word for no culture at all for Canada.
2. Worst Weather.
Yes, Canada has the worst weather, that is why we skate around and
play
hockey. : )
1. No Jobs.
There are jobs but they are not professional jobs. I am not going to
argue,
my wife and I are leaving because we have professional jobs but they
pay
poorly after we are done paying twice as much taxes as we would in
the U.S.
The Liberal Party though has mesmerized the Greater Toronto Area /
Ontario
who now believe that the source of Canada is the very party who did
such
incredible damage to it. I have hope and we may move back here when
we
retire but we certainly plan to make our livings in the United
States
hopefully in 30 years Canada will be fixed but it will never be
fixed under
the Liberals. Vote in the NDP or the Conservatives, anything but the
Liberals.
Harvey Delaine
New York, USA
hsdelaine @ hotmail.com
October 31, 2006
Canada is desperate for bodies.
Some years ago there was a study done on Canada’s declining
population. Later it turned into a joke, that being ‘by the year
2150, there will be only one person left in Canada, it would be a
woman living in the Northwest Territories’
But kidding aside, the trend they studied was indeed happening. For
a few reasons I will outline below.
First, on average, white Canadians do not have as many kids as
people in other countries. Perhaps it is culture or the high costs
associated with raising a child in Canada.
Second, people are not as interested in immigrating to Canada, like
several decades ago. The rest of the world has caught up, while
Canada has remained dormant.
Finally, born and raised Canadians are leaving the country for
better jobs and opportunities elsewhere. Many (most) never return.
So Canada is left in a situation where they desperately need people
to come and pay taxes to support their economy. So that is why the
government so frantically tries to lure and recruit people from
overseas.
Canadian immigration officials, Canadian immigration lawyers hold
seminars in big five star hotels all over the world. They do their
very best to lie and attract the richest foreigners to come to
Canada.
After these foreigners arrive in Canada however, the reality is a
different world.
Erik Manso
formerly of Ontario (now in California)
emanso @ yahoo.com
October 25, 2006
Wow,
I have never read so many comments from clueless people in my
Life...
Why are you under the illusion that Canada owes you something????
What you
should of researched or had the common sense to fathom, is that
Canada could
give you the opportunity for a better life...
The wording here is precise...COULD....Not should or will!!!
Could...
What you make of that opportunity is up to you. But if it doesn't
work
out...Hold your hands up and be honest...Say(for whatever reason)
you need
to justify to yourself..i.e Government conspiracy, racism, unlucky,
etc and
move the Hell out..
Making room for more deserving, grateful people....
The rest of us Canadians live in 12 bed roomed castles, drive
Mercedes and
are chauffer driven to work....
Why should you get that right away when we have toiled our whole
lives in
this country and you are newbie's????
If you are Lucky enough to move here have realistic expectations and
assume
you will not be given opportunities till you have earned them.
Foreign qualifications, although recognized by Immigration will not
be
recognised by any one else..Look into bridging qualifications or
resitting
the same qualification in Canada.
You have lived here for all of 2 minutes...what makes you so
special????
Be realistic, learn the language, pay your dues, acclimatize and
most
importantly...
If you don't like it or it hasn't worked out for you...Leave..Canada
owes
you NOTHING....
Mark Edge
mountieuk @ hotmail.com
October 24, 2006
Your comments posted on notcanada.com don't seem to make any sense
at all.
They clearly lack valid arguments and by the nature of your thoughts
you're
also misinformed. However, I felt compelled to respond for several
reasons.
First, if you always write in that fashion and claim you have a
bachelor's
degree, I would really doubt about your attendance to any
well-established
Canadian University. (By the way, it is properly written
"bachelor's", when
writing in first person. Not bachelor) e.g. I have a bachelor's
degree!
Additionally, you should get the "facts" and inform yourself better
before
making any claims referring to the so-called "Canadian standards".
Do your
homework.
If you're to speak about "STANDARDS" you'll notice (by reading and
researching) that many countries have equal, if not higher
"STANDARDS"
compared to Canada's in many areas such as education, science,
technical
research, engineering, medicine, and even arts.
Not to mention that the great majority of scientific and
technological
advances are imported into Canada, and not developed in Canada or by
Canadians as you may think.
The fact of the matter is that expressions and views such as
"Standards",
"Go back to your country", and "Moving to Canada is a step forward
and a
privilege, not a right" are being used by people like you, when no
other
intelligent arguments can be set forward, and makes the rest of us
(Canadians) who believe in an open and fair society (such as Pierre
Elliot
Trudeau did) look like idiots.
Patrick Kavanagh
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
djcoma @ msn.com
October 21, 2006
Hello "Not Canada":
Well your name says it all doesn't it? If you don't like Canada, why
move here? Move to the US if that's what you prefer. Or better yet,
move back to your home country. There's a reason why doctors or
engineers or lawyers can't find work here right away, it's called
"STANDARDS". Obviously, Canadian standards for professions is going
to be different than foreign countries, we are a developed nation. I
work in a pharmacy company, and the comment I hear most is how
different Canadian pharmacy is different from back home, from
foreign pharmacists, and they can't wait to do their upgrading to
become licensed here. In the meantime, they go to community college
and become pharmacy technicians. They actually know that they have
to work for what they want to have in their new country, they don't
just expect everything.
They know that coming to Canada is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT. Even if
immigrants have to work as a taxi driver or in a factory, guess
what? In Canada you have freedom, quality of life, no human rights
abuses and a rich country that will look after those down on their
luck. Quite a difference from many countries in Africa and Asia
where human rights abuses and lack of freedom are a daily fact of
life. Moving to Canada is a step up in itself! This is a country
where if you work hard, you will be rewarded. Immigrants with your
attitude don't want to work hard. Foreign experience or education by
itself doesn't count? No it doesn't, Canada and Asia and Africa are
totally different places in the world, so obviously you will need
Canadian experience and education and upgrading.
Yet there are people who expect to be able to come to Canada and
practice their profession right away? I'd be scared to be treated by
a foreign doctor or pharmacist without them being trained to
Canadian standards. When foreign professionals are trained to
Canadian standards, they are able to practice. For those too lazy to
upgrade, then yes they will get the jobs that Canadians don't want.
Why should I as a Canadian professional be displaced by someone who
just came here when I've been here all my life and paid taxes all my
life? I haven't gotten a free ride, and I'll be damned if someone
not even born here gets one over me. Work for what you have like
Canadians do! Be honoured that you're finally in such an exceptional
country! I thank God I was born here vs. somewhere in Asia or Africa
every day!
I have a Bachelor degree from Canada, and while it took a while for
even me to become established in my career, now I will have no
problem. It's called working your way up, and while professional
immigrants seem to want the world handed to them on a silver platter
at the expense of actual Canadians, it doesn't happen that way. The
day I am displaced from my professional job by someone from another
country with no Canadian experience or equivalency, when I worked my
ass off for my experience, is the day I move to the US.
I am not against immigrants in any way. Born here, my parents and
grandparents were immigrants. We are a country built on immigrants.
But just like the generations of Europeans who built this country
and had to work their way up for what they have, you're damn right
that current immigrants from Asia and Africa will have to do the
same. Work for what you have the way Canadians do!
Thanks!
Christine S.
leadlady @ hotmail.com
October 20, 2006
Hi everybody,
I am glad, that I came across this site and share a few thoughts
with you. I came to Canada, because of the slow economy in Germany.
And the canadian consulates are doing a great job selling and
promoting Canada.
Canada is only looking for low cost worker that can fill in the
positions, that no canadian would take. I am very happy about the
fact, that I have kept my family back in Germany and not moved over
here. After being confronted with the real world, I can only say,
CANADA is not worth it. I will not stay. I thought we had a drug
problem back in Europe.
I will not support this system with my skills and hard work and all
I say is: Don't listen to any immigration agent.
Hope, that you all make the right choice
Harald - Alberta
haraldengling @ aol.com
October 13, 2006
Hi there,
I have seen your website and I really admire your effort to help
people immigrating to Canada to avoid a real waste o time, money,
and effort.
But, I think that your website has no use if you do not include it
in google and yahoo searchs, for example, when someone searchs for
"immigration canada" it would be great if your website appeared in
the search list because that way people could notice it and read it.
I personally would not have had immigrated to Canada had I seen your
website before, in my country the canadian and quebec consulates are
really "selling" the idea that Canada is a great place to live and
work and that is the reason why so many people go there, waste their
time and money just to end up going back.
This situation helps canadian local people live at a luxury level,
that is very unfair.
We should try to lower immigration into that country because it is a
total fraud. Canadians are totally fake people, they just take care
of their image a lot, but inside they are all racist.
I hope something can be done to place your website in google and
yahoo searchs so that people can see it ahead of time and do not
immigrate there, to the land of "waste"
Thanks
J.M. Red
jmred @ web.de
October 05, 2006
"There is hunger crisis in the GTA." taken from www.dailybread.ca
click on the "Who's hungry..." link. The Daily Bread Food Bank is a
food bank in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
So sad that there are so many hungry people in this "first world"
nation. Yeah, any proud Canadian may say "this is a great country,
that's why we have the food banks to feed the lazy people." Well,
some news for you, proud Canadian: most of these people aren't lazy,
they are working but the money they make is so low that it isn't
enough to feed their families.
"Working Poor: More than half of the people who are working and
using food banks earn a wage of $10/hr or more. However, food bank
clients work an average of just 25 hours per week. Most say they
want more hours, but are unable to get them..."
"Immigrants: Over 40% of food bank clients in the GTA are foreign
born. Nearly half of these immigrants have been in Canada for 4
years or less. Many are prevented from working in their fields
because their professional credentials aren't recognized. They are
unable to find jobs, even though close to 2/3 have post-secondary
education..."
To the people who are planning to apply for Immigration Canada (or
even thinking about it): another BIG thing that this "GREAT" country
has to offer is HUNGER for YOU and YOUR FAMILIES!!!
Moving South is an option for those who are stuck here. Just wait 3
years, get your Canadian passport, and apply for a job and work
permit in the USA. In my case, I've just got one more year to leave
this living hell.
Christian Collantes
collanteschristian @ yahoo.ca
October 05, 2006
I have been reading posts of disillusioned immigrants sharing their
bitter experiences and responses by regular Canadian citizens
partially agreeing or vigorously defending Canada. I am sure that
complaints posted by those immigrants have merit but the irony to me
is that the members of the least prejudiced and probably most
immigrant friendly nation have to defend their country while the
actual culprit is the Canadian government and not a regular Canadian
citizen.
It took me only a few days and not weeks or months that Canadian
government is an inefficient one that breeds complacency. The
government of course is failing the immigrants by not having a
coherent and functional system to help them get jobs related to
their skills. It’s primarily government who is responsible for a
high cost of living. Just about everything here is more expensive
here than in US and I wonder why
1. Canada produces and exports oil to US and yet it’s more expensive
here than in US.
2. A decent house with upgraded appliances and furnishings in Texas
or in most US states costs two or three times cheaper than one in
suburbs of Toronto while land, lumbar or just about anything you
need to build a house is available here in abundance.
3. I used to pay about $200 or $250 auto insurance in most states in
US for six month period and here and it averages about $200 a month.
Yes, they have medical treatment almost for free but on the flipside
its costing tax payers a lot and if only they relax the acceptance
system only a bit there are thousands of immigrant’s doctors willing
to join the workforce that will bring the cost per patient down and
improve the quality of service. They are the same doctors who spent
years in their own countries to treat people with probably more
complex medical issues back there. I was told upon arriving in
Canada that the medical system and Insurance companies are like a
mafia here. I tend not to disagree and only add that the government
is the Godfather.
I personally have no complaints to a regular Canadian. They surprise
me with their tolerance towards immigrants and the culture they
bring along. I just request them to please understand that it’s the
government most complaints and whining are directed to or at least
that’s what I understand.
One thing that I’d strongly disagree from notcanada.com is that
“there are no jobs”. Availability of jobs depends on the economic
process and these days you really can’t say that there are no jobs.
There is gold rush of jobs in Calgary and Edmonton and in general,
economy is good but yes you have to be qualified for that.
And in case you are wondering, I am an immigrant who is a native of
Pakistan, lived 14 years in US and immigrated to Canada and running
a successful business here. My personal situation has no bearing on
my opinion but on my observation of the government, the people and
the system.
Regards
Motor Head
speedxtreem @ yahoo.com
October 03, 2006
To Notcanada.com
I have been reading this forum for a while now and the posts talk
about many things, but I think many have missed the point.
Canada, like any other country, will use what they have to make
money. Some countries have produce, some countries have oil, some
countries have diamonds. Canada
has something very unique, and that is 'first world country status'.
Who gave this status to Canada? Lord only knows, but the fact
remains that Canada has it.
So they will use it to make money. How? Immigration.
All over the world, Canadian embassies have been trained to lure
foreigners to Canada. These embassies paint this picture that Canada
is the greatest place in the Universe. Free health care, free
education, free everything. Jobs, just waiting for you, as soon as
you get off the airplane you will be hired. Because, there is a
shortage of everything in Canada, shortage of doctors, shortage of
skilled workers, shortage of tradesmen etc.
None of this is true.
But Canada is succeeding in luring foreigners to Canada. Why?
Because they have this ‘first world country status’ and people
overseas believe that this ‘status’ makes Canada better than their
home countries. So they seek that (worthless) Canadian citizenship.
I grew up in Canada and honestly I would rather live in a second
world country. I eventually moved here to the U.S. because Canada
had nothing to offer me. So to those who think ‘I will move to
Canada for my children’s future’ let me tell you, trust me, your
kids have no future in Canada. We, the ones who grew up there, had
to permanently leave the country in order to make something of our
lives.
Dr. Bruce Lin
Queens, New York
dblinmd @ yahoo.com
Sept 21, 2006
Dear Friend Shannon Fraser,
I was going thro notCanada.com where I saw your writing which shreds
anger. You are son of the soil and have a full right on what you
say.
But friend is it really nice to blame the immigrants. Your
government and its agencies are bringing out big adds in our country
telling lousy stories of Canada. People are fooled to believe that
gold coins are on the roads. Immigrants are coming from those
countries where net is not popular so they are not able to verify
websites. They trusts your Governments advertisements. They believe
in the advertisements only where your government avoids telling
about taxes. We are coming to know details only thro this websites
like notCanada.com and also from the writing of the frustrated
immigrants.
The writers are mostly qualified and having hands on experience
having good potential demand in their country. It is because of the
intelligent advertisement of your government that they were lured
and is now victimized. Many are staying because of their ego. Just
tell me is it fair on your government part to lure a doctor and
force him to become a van driver. In this case whom do you blame?
So now you Canadians should come out in the road and ask your
government to stop kidding. make it clear that professionals have no
opening here in Canada. Those willing to do blue color jobs only
should come to Canada. Since the Government is elected by you we
blame you for this way to earn foreign exchange at the cost of
innocence of migrants.
With best wishes.
Yours loving friend
Subroto Sarkar
India
kittu_pondy @ hotmail.com
Sept 18, 2006
I find it rather funny when Canadians boldly
claim that they have the best city in the world, namely Vancouver. I
lived in Vancouver and let me tell you that it is very far from
being the best. Here is the list of the serious problems I can think
of in that city:
1. Crime/Drugs
Being a port city, drug trafficking is a big
problem in Vancouver. It tends to be the hub for a lot of the drug
traffic. This leads to crime such as property theft which is very
prevalent throughout the city. Many cars and bikes are stolen daily.
Houses are broken into regularly. Most of the thieves are after
property where they can sell it for quick cash.
2. Increasing real estate prices
It is becoming increasingly expensive to live
in Vancouver. A lot of real estate has doubled in price over the
recent years. It is getting outrageous. This is not a good situation
for the average working civilian. Back in the old days, a family
could afford to buy a house if you worked hard for a few years.
Nowadays, average citizens have to work an average of 30 years to
pay off the mortgage on a house.
3. Business/Jobs/High taxes
Overall, Vancouver isn't a good place for
business or finding good jobs readily. There are not many
opportunities here compared to places like Dubai, New Delhi, New
York, Tokyo or some of the bigger cities of the world. Our
population is relatively small and the taxes are very high. The
average person pays about 50% in taxes if you count all of the
semi-hidden semantic words for tax (gas tax, insurance, property
tax, environmental levies, license permits, income tax, goods and
services tax, tips, etc.)
4. Education
People who want to learn should have the
opportunity to have an education. Due to increasing tuition costs,
many students cannot afford to pay for their education. This is a
waste of talent.
5. Health Care
Canada does have some of the most advanced
medical technologies and researchers in the world. It's too bad the
system as a whole is on life support. People are dying due to the
fact that there are not enough practicing doctors, nurses and
hospital facilities. Some are in urgent need of critical surgery but
due to the long wait lists for surgery...by the time they have an
open spot for the surgery, the patient has passed away.
As a city and nation, I believe it's important
that the average citizen should be able to have a reasonable job,
have a little money left over each month and be able to afford to
live in a house if they worked hard. However, this is becoming more
of an exception rather than the norm.
If the ones at the top continue to be selfish
at the expense of the average citizens, this would eventually lead
us all into a downfall. It didn't take many people at the top to
ruin the once powerful USSR. It is an example of what can happen
when the few people at the top only care for their own short-term
benefits instead of the citizens of the nation in the long-term.
People can achieve a better outcome in the long-term if they worked
together as a team instead of against each other.
Andy Kim
akim74 @ uwaterloo.ca
Sept 15, 2006
Hello everyone, As an immigrant that came here in March 2001 from
the USA
and after reading all the comments posted on here I thought I would
like to
put in my own opinion as Canada is a free country where everyone is
entitled
to their own opinion even though others may disagree with them.
I truly sympathize with the new immigrants and all that they are
going
through as I know the frustration that they are going through.
However hard
work and persistence does pay off. I like so many new immigrants
started out
working night shifts in a warehouse. Many a time I wondered why I
was doing
this when I did have a good job back home. Let me tell you this,
work at it
and do not give up hope. I was there for 5 years and had a good
paying job
in my field of work, a nice house (no doubt it may have been out in
Milton
but never the less its HOME :)
I came to Canada with the mind set that I was willing to start at
the very
bottom and thats exactly what I did. Do not go there expecting to
start at
and maintain the same job and standard of living that you had in
your home
country. The taxes may be high but let me tell you this... where
else in the
world would you have excellent health care at the cost of $0.00. I
took time
off from work for 6 months and got paid (Yes got paid for those six
months)
and got to spend time with my daughter. Being from the US let me
tell you
how many days you get of parental leave... NONE. Maternity leave is
about 6
weeks and thats it.
Now I am back in the US and just wanted to say as an former
immigrant and
now proud Canadian Citizen. Its hard but you can make it, and I am
sure
there are many other success stories out there too. Just dont give
up and
don't complain and work at it and you will succeed.
Please do not be racist against anyone, everyone here were once
immigrants
and worked hard to get to where they are. People here are a lot more
welcoming that in the United Sates. Being bitter isn't going to
solve
anything nor is it going to land you a job.
Good luck to all the new immigrants out there.
Lance Fernandes
Nebraska USA (Milton, Ontario)
lancef @ hotmail.com
Sept 15, 2006
If you are simultaneously a "visible-minority" and "language(English/French)-no-speak."
Me, I am a 2x-year-old guy who resides in Quebec. I have two Master
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