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December 29,  2006

Hi

Thank you so much for your great work. You are really doing a great job raising awareness about the reality of Canada.

I have a suggestion for your organization. Since you already have some video footages on your website, it would be great if you can submit a video to certain websites which will broadcast your video online. Websites like current.tv and youtube.com are great for posting your video for millions to see. It will give you more exposure and get more public attention.

If you submit to current.tv, not only internet viewers can see. If the Current TV executives like it, they will air it on their cable television.

You might wonder why posting on these American sites. I feel that immigrants in Canada already know what's going on anyway. Even if they don't see it on TV or read it in the newspaper or on the internet, they can feel it. The message needs to get out of Canada and go to Asia or some other countries, so it will have stronger impact. More people overseas need to find out the reality of the job market in Canada because we don't need more victims. People need to know that Canadian government is not trying to build real economy for the country but keeps advertising to get more educated and skilled immigrants to come here and spend money.

Please consider about posting videos on those websites. If you need any help for editing videos, I will volunteer to help.

Sincerely

Bluebell
bluebell010101 @ yahoo.com

links
http://www.current.tv
http://www.youtube.com

I will try to find Asia websites which allow video posting. I can also help  you to submit letters or articles to editors in Asia to pitch a story.

 

 

December 21,  2006

If you are a professional, stay away from Canada.

Especially if you are in IT. The more qualifications and experience you have the more difficult it is to make it in the Canadian job market today.

Companies and industry specialists are saying Canada needs highly skilled IT professionals, knowing full well that there is a flood of professionals in the market. Some employment agencies constantly advertise jobs that don’t exist. You can see for yourselves examples of this on Workololis. This gives the impression that there is an abundance of vacancies in the market when in reality there is an abundance of professionals looking for work.

Currently for every job vacancy advertised companies get hundreds of resumes. They are not only at liberty to choose from tens or hundreds of highly qualified professionals but have the luxury to demand an unreasonable mix of qualifications and specializations, a few years ago would have been impossible to fulfill.

Companies in Canada are not interested in investing in their people any more so they look for professionals who can be productive from day one, and can be disposed of when the job is done.

Over and above your IT skills you have to have specific experience in the technology they want you to work on before they even consider you.

If you want to get training for any one of the technologies that are in demand such as SAP, .net, J2EE etc, the costs are prohibitive. You can expect to spend more than $10,000 to get adequate training in any one of these current technologies. The Canadian government will not help if you are not on Employment Insurance, which you cannot have if you are a new immigrant. Even if you do get training in any one of the currently in demand technologies your chances of landing a job don’t improve much, since companies look for years of experience before they even consider you.

Over and above experience in specific technologies, you have to have experience in specific industries. So you if you are an IT professional with years of experience in the manufacturing industry you will not be considered for a vacancy in the financial industry.

This is not only true for developers who have to write code and develop applications using specific technologies, it is also true for managers. Managers are expected to have several years experience in managing people, managing client relationships, managing vendor relationships, managing projects that are in specific industries using specific technologies and the ability to develop code using these technologies.

This is what a professional who has many years experience in the Canadian IT industry faces today when he looks for a job. Over and above that, an immigrant would have to deal the old “Canadian experience” cliché. This is almost impossible to address, since you cannot have Canadian experience without first working in Canada and you cannot work in Canada without having Canadian experience.

Even if you are lucky enough to get a job in Canada these days, the pay is dismal. Most of the jobs available are contract jobs that pay low wages, offer no job security and nothing in the way of benefits.

So don’t fall for the Canadian immigration scam, stay away from Canada.

C.M.
candm_40 @ hotmail.com

 

 

December 19,  2006

I'm a guy with a Canadian Master's degree in engineering. I got my degree about five years ago and
recently became a Canadian citizen. I'm in my early thirties. My ethnicity is South Asian (visible
minority Canadian). I was raised in a country in the EU, where the first language is English. My English,
therefore, is near-perfect with no accent. I have been unable to find a real job related to my field.

I feel that some immigrants are wrong to criticize the Canadian government (Ottawa). It is not Ottawa that is
responsible for the failures of immigrants - it is the average Canadian or Canadian society, and the average
Canadian company or business.

I have discovered Canadian society to be a highly politically correct society unlike the societies of
the EU, but at the same time, a society that is extremely unwelcoming of visible minorities in the
Canadian workplace. The hate is so evident on their faces. You know? Just the way some of them look at
you? It's almost like "Where the hell did he/she come from? From one of those 3rd world countries we've
probably bombed? Or from one of these countries where he/she was starving". My point is: Racism in the
Canadian workplace is alive and well. That is why job entry is extremely difficult especially when you don't
live in a city like Toronto. And even when you're in, that's when the conspiracies begin, the backbiting,
the backstabbing, the subtle racial slurs. I could go on. The fact is: They just don't want to see you in
the workplace! That isn't Ottawa's fault! That is the racism that is so deeply embedded in this society,
that the hate that just never endingly goes on.

Honestly, sometimes, I would wonder how much hate these people are full of. You talk about professional
positions? They can't "see" you working even menial jobs! Immigrants should know that if it is anyone that
cares for them, it is Ottawa, and they shouldn't blame Ottawa for their misfortunes in Canada. Ottawa keeps
an excellent balance. I would like to share with you a bit more of my personal experiences. As a gay visible
minority not living in a major metropolitan area such as the GTA, my life became a living hell in the
Canadian workplace. I was constantly bombarded, subtly, with ethnic and homophobic slurs, day after
day after day - right from the top manager to the grade 12 dropout working with me in the factory. I
would just ignore it because I needed the money to survive and didn't want to loose the job. One day,
some employees threatened to kill me. They just said lets kill this brown dog. And then they all laughed
aloud. Now could I go to the police to prove that? No. Because they didn't say it to my face but they sent me
the message, loud and clear! (The message being: we don't want to see you here anymore!) They said such
things in a very indirect way but the harassment would tremendously injure me internally. I would cry alone
when I went home. They also used to regularly intimidate me by talking about the KKK and white
supremacist views over the coffee table in the factory's coffee area. I kept my mouth shut for over a
year, and finally, one backstabbing supervisor framed me for an error made in the workplace, and I was
let-go by the factory. You call this country a gay friendly, visible-minority-tolerant country? The fact
is: The Canadian workplace is extremely intolerant.

Survival in the Canadian workplace is extremely difficult. And trust me, you can't live in Canada
without working to pay the bills. Ottawa helps bring tolerance to Canadian society, but the attitudes of
the nation at large, are entirely different. To prospective immigrants, come here and be prepared to
live in one of the ghetto centers like Toronto because the average white Canadian living in the middle of
some other place like Huntsville Ontario or Brandon Manitoba or Humboldt Saskatchewan or Brooks Alberta or
Gander Newfoundland, don't like your face! Ottawa is not responsible for ghettoization. However, many white
Anglo Saxon Canadians are. Canada is certainly not what you see on TV, with all those coloured CBC hosts
and the so called ethnically harmonious workplaces portrayed on TV. Canada is naturally the most
beautiful county in the world, but as another poster said, the hills, the lakes, the moose and the bears,
don't pay the bills!

I don't mind working menial jobs because at least Ottawa has given me basic rights at the government
level (I'm not saying it's a perfect system, but it works well, because if it didn't, the average Canadian
wood expel visible minorities from their communities with great speed). Ottawa makes sure everyone can at
least live in a warm room and not starve to death. I brought about $250,000 to Canada and I intend to keep
my money here because international financial institutions would never let the Canadian dollar
devalue like some other 3rd world country such as the currencies of some African or Asian currencies.
(Because the international financial institutions are based in the west.) ;) However, I would not hesitate
looking for better professional job opportunities anywhere in the world. I remain sincere to Ottawa and
Canada and can only hope that the some average Canadians will change their attitudes towards visible
minority Canadians in the workplace. I would appreciate it if someone could give me information
about civil engineering professional opportunities in the US. You are free to correspond with me directly.
Thanks.

T. Khan
Ontario, Canada
tkhanm @ yahoo.com

 

 

December 17,  2006

Oh mother tell your children, Not to do what I have done
Spend your lives in sin and misery, In the House of Canada

Great website. Thank you for providing a place to practice one of the fundamental rights provided by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. As per 2b: "Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication".

The following is my opinion of Canada and Canadians, based on spending over 10 years in this country as a professional immigrant.

Canada is a beautiful country with great mass of land and tremendous natural resources and recreational opportunities. The same thing is not true for the job market. There are too many seals fighting for a very limited amount of fish. That is the reality of the Canadian job market. Very few opportunities, the higher your education, the less are the opportunities. Canadian society tends to lean toward nepotism rather than meritocracy.

I lived in both British Columbia and California. My experience in Vancouver that the people are incredibly rude, impolite and self absorbed. There is a good amount of jealousy going on when a Canadian realizes that you are better than them either professionally or personally. People are greedy and enjoy screwing up others for no personal gain in a sick and twisted manner. Canadians are lazy people and even lazier drivers. The crime rate in Canada is high. Not just simple break-ins but also violent crimes. Punishment is nonexistent. The sentences are incredibly light for serious crimes committed. The court system is nonfunctional. You have to wait over 18 months with a simple small claims court case, which takes less than 2 months and cost significantly less in the southern neighbor. Vehicle insurance rates are out of control, as a government owned monopoly sets the prices. There is an insignificant number of minority employed by this corporation. Almost all living expenses are significantly higher than in the US. Housing prices are quickly closing the gap.

On the other hand there is one thing what counts in the US. Your merit, your knowledge. Not your connections. Not the color of your skin or accent is the one which determines your success, but your own abilities. The people in California are so much nicer than Canadians. Housing prices are high in California, but compared to the level of income, cost of living is lower than in Canada. You choose your insurance company and not the only government owned insurance company chooses your premium. You choose when you want to see a doctor. You get service for your money.  That is called meritocracy.

I also want to respond to some of the comments posted by big mouth Canadians, like "why don't you go back where you came from". Everyone came to this country as an immigrant or born here as the child/grandchild of an immigrant. You have no moral right to tell to another immigrant to go home. The only people who would have this right are the Natives. People who immigrated a few decades ago had much wider opportunities than today's newcomers. Just because you or your ancestors abused the Natives on their own land or in your boarding schools, you have no moral right to tell anyone to go home. Every Canadian has the right to express their opinion and it does not depend on your background or on your heritage. Just look up the Fundamental Freedoms in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It under 2b.

Steven
yvr99 @ hotmail.com

 

 

December 16,  2006

I love this website, it gives me strength and i feel empowered sometimes when i am feeling not so good. I would say that keep the momentum going as what is happening to coloured immigrants in Canada was a very conveniently kept secret by the government. It is the recent wave of educated immigrants who do not accept being treated like trash that has caused the world to take note of what was silently happening for decades, to the helpless refugees and other family class folks.

I would blame the government of canada for this as they did not disclose that there is massive discrimination on the basis of race in canada (in fact it advertises just the opposite), more so this discrimination is subtle in nature and hence it is very hard to prove in a court so what happens is that the immigrant gets stuck in a trap for no fault of his.

The Government of Canada should compensate these immigrants for their financial and emotional losses and hardships suffered. Let this be an awakening that we the recent immigrants of today will not wait till we are 90 years old to be compensated (like the recent head tax people did ). We are young educated and marketable and will expose this scam otherwise our degrees is of no use. Canada advertised, lied and got the best professional , but you have to treat the best like best as they are so driven to achieve something of their life that they will look for alternatives and at the same time expose this.

Vikas Suri
engvik2002 @ yahoo.co.in

 

 

December 13,  2006

I can see that there are a lot of unsatisfied immigrants here in Canada! Not to mention citizens as well! But the fact is that there is a free market and if you play your cards right you too can make it here. You may not be able to work in your trained field. You might have to retrain unfortunately. I do not agree with that, but that is the fact. Deal with it! As Canadians we have worked as a nation to achieve what we have. However, I feel your pain. But, I do not feel the hard work and effort that I have and many other Canadians have put in and my family has put in is a shame. So please do not insult us. I have been able to succeed and I have been able to do well for myself. It is not thanks to my government, I agree to that that. But I have made it where I have. In some cases I have found a few times that they the government has helped me. I do feel that If you really want to succeed; Work hard there is free market here and you can open you own business and you can do contract work and you can look for the tax breaks in doing that.

People that limit themselves to driving taxis limit themselves period. There are many other things that you can do if you are willing. You can also change the tires on the taxis and so many other things. Everyone has to start in terrible place. But if you can make it you'll do well. Being Canadian has a cultural identity of hard working people and determination of a nation to succeed. If you do not know what Canadian food tastes like; It tastes like the salt of the earth because it comes from all corners of the earth and it has meaning to me and my family! I am an 8th generation Canadian of Irish and Scottish decent and I am proud of my heritage! I am proud of the Refugees, the French, the Metis, the First Nations, the Sikhs, the Muslims and the Christians of this land. I have friends from all corners if the earth who love it here and are proud to be able to live here. Canada is made up of of people who came here with nothing and have established themselves and made it through the hard cold barren land. My best friend is a very successful person and his family came here with a suitcase and two children one on the way as refugees from communist Czech. He's Canadian! If you do not know what being a hard worker is then you will never know what Canadian Culture is.

Every country has a down side unfortunately. In Canada Every normal person has to struggle to make it and if you are not willing to work hard to make it here then we don't want you anyways so please don't come, and quit crying because you have to get a job when you are here. If you don't like your job then look for a new one. If it's not what you want then don't come here. We don't want slackers stinking up our streets. If however you are a determined individual or family and you have willingness to make it on you own; Come and join some of the strongest people in the world... The Canadians!

In life if you try to surround yourself with success you will become successful. If you segregate others you will segregate yourself. By all means you have to try. God gives us all trials in life. You need to pass your own and not blame others for yours. When life gives you lemons make lemonade. In that I mean being creative with what you have and not giving up because you have reached an obstacle. Life is full of obstacles!

Sincerely
A true Canadian Patriot.
Ross Moore
rossamoore @ hotmail.com

 

 

December 13,  2006

If you look at some of the postings on this forum, you would be led to believe that things would be peachy if only the Canucks could get every foreigner or immigrant out of the country. Not true. Canadians need immigrants whether they like it or not, and there are consequences that the Canucks have to live with; like it or not.

What you have to understand is that Canada deliberately brings in the numbers of immigrants it does (about 250,000 annually), because it knows that it needs them for the low wage dead end jobs Canadians won't do.

"In order for the rich to have so much, there must be an abundance of the poor."

Let's turn this phrase around a little bit: "In order for Canadians to maintain their standard of living, there must be an abundance of immigrants, and minorities willing to work for very low wages, and survive at a relatively low standard of living."

The entire backbone of the Canadian lifestyle depends on low wage labour (ie. a subsidy of sorts from immigrants and minorities), while at the same time using high taxes to support a massive overgrown "tax and spend" bureaucracy.

Even the Harper government's immigration minister, Monte Solberg, has done a complete flip flop on his election promises. Instead of doing future immigrants a favor by reforming the immigration system and maybe restricting immigration; he has now stated that immigration might need to be increased. (A Royal Bank economist has suggested bringing in about 300,000 - 320,000 immigrants here in the future every year. ie. about 1% of the population)

Yikes. Where did this number come from? Can any country honestly justify some cookbook recipe like this for immigration?

But Solberg's flip flop. Why? Because he got a look at the books and realized that reducing immigration would mean a possible collapse of the immigration industry. It would also mean an immediate effect on the economy. Fewer immigrant dollars coming here and being spent here, and fewer immigrants to do the jobs Canadians won't do.

If you don't like immigrants, then complain to your own government. Don't blame immigrants for your mismanagement and a corrupt political system. They are only coming here because they are being told that they are wanted here by your immigration industry, and its government.

Grant Buckannon
grant_buckannon @ yahoo.com

 

 

December 11,  2006

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know, I LOVE your site. There is no where for canadians born here OR immigrants to express their views, this seems the only spot!!

I was born in New Brunswick and it is just like the 3rd world there now. I just heard that if you don't pay your hydro bill after two months (which has doubled in the last year!!)- they cut you off. There was a mother with 2 babies, (one sick with a bad flu) and they did not care!! Her father (who works in Boston) is writing the local mla- unsure what that will do!! Did you know- the local Liberal MLA is married to Irving's granddaughter- how convenient is that?? unreal!! Irving is the worst employer is canada- he treats his employees just awful.. There are people spying on you all the time. They are jewish background I believe. Also the pay is half of what you should get and never do you get a raise, maybe 25 cents!! This is where true slaves work- even the Irving convenience stores- they make 6.25 an hour, you would not believe all the work they have to do- it is high stress for any job for irving (unless you are his pilot!!).

I also noted when I read about your site- that you stated canada is 90% unhabited, this actually is NOT true. There is only way of north of BC and Alberta that one cannot live due to extreme cold and of course the rockie mountain range- it is miles and miles of just mountains (I flew over this from BC going home to east).

I dont want to appear racist but where I am from - it is about 99% white and the people half starved and eating in food bands are white, mainly male. The government does not give a crap about uneducated poor white males- why do you think that is all you see on the streets of any given city. There is not ONE program to help them. There is NO welfare anymore in canada to canadian born who dont have an address. But I know for a fact (because I used to work at Immigration in Toronto)- immigrants and refugees get welfare for 2 years annd they get quite a bit more (perhaps 1000 per person??). This is a seperate government fund JUST for newcomers. This is why i get mad when newcomers get MORE than canadians- who there are perhaps 2 millions living in dire poverty.

Also- in Ontario and NB for sure- they cut out welfare for thousands. Only can get it if you have a disability or are single mother now. They dont reveal this in the media of course and will lie if you ask them, but I personally know 5 people who were denied!!

It is all a sad situation. The canadians are getting very mad and turning against immigrants due to (I am talking the poor ones)- due to NO WORK. Look at small towns, there is NOTHING, so they must head off to big cities where there are quotas and few jobs. This is all the liberal partys doing. They started multiculturalism- which is a racist policy!! Just creates a bunch of ghettos that all compete and turn on each other.

Well all for now.

I am hoping I can get a job soon. I have been in and out of so many jobs, they are all corrupted and awful places to work and there is NO law to protect anyone from this crap!!

See one other think- canada is highly automated so that is another reason why it is so darn hard to find work- they are now automating cashiers and gas pumps, what next?? There are hardly any secretaries anymore- i used to be one, but you cant find a job in it for years now! All automated or people do their own typing, automated receptionist at law firms, etc. No one mentioned this, look at car plants, hardly a soul works there!!

Janice Marquis
rigi60 @ hotmail.com

 

 

December 07,  2006

I am now Canadian- after 4.5 years here with my husband. Both from the UK
originally- conned into coming to Canada like all the rest of the postings
on this forum.We did plenty of research before we came and no one gave us
the impression it would be difficult to find work- well I suppose its not
difficult if you want to clean /flip burgers with your PHD qualifications.

I am making it my aim to tell everyone I know not to come to Canada. We have
lost 4.5 years of our lives in the vain hope that we could find a better
life here. My husband cannot even retrain into anything else because he has
never worked he cannot claim EI, so therefore the unemployment figures
provided by the wonderful Government service'Stats Canada' mean absolutely
nothing, because you can bet your life he is not the only one.

Even my 29 years experience in my Professional career count for nothing.

Well enough is enough.. unlike these poor Canadian born saps- those of us
immigrants with dual citizenship have options. We are going to leave Canada
and move south or back to the UK. We cannot afford to go backwards any more
and be made to feel like 3rd class citizens.

We felt that we had to stay to get our citizenship( anyway we had dogs and
did not want to go back straightaway to the UK because of the quarantine
regulations), so now at least we have the Citizenship.

We love America with a passion... always have but again they make it
difficult for the Brits to come into the country.

We are hoping to invest in a business in the USA and create jobs for US
citizens and catch up with our retirement fund... then we will probably go
back to the UK.We won't come back here thats for sure...

Diane otto
dianeotto @ hotmail.com

 

 

December 04,  2006

This is a very interesting website that I hope many would-be immigrants would find the time to read before even submitting their forms.  Whoever put this site together should be awarded the "Order of Canada" title.  I propose the award because the site gives people opportunity to be well informed about the realities of life in Canada, although I'm surprised that whoever is moderating sometimes allows people to make the place a "whinefield"!  However, a good reading of the entries will provide some true picture of Canada.
 
I am a recent immigrant to Canada.  I've been here for 5 years.  If there is any way to do it, I would like to underline the word "recent" because it is the real meat of the statement.  Canada is a land of immigrants; some came 200 years ago and others arrived yesterday.  I don't think anyone has a problem with that.  That is definitely not my gripe with Canada.  If anyone is moving away from his country of birth to another, and expects to live at the same level in his new country, I believe he should first go and see a psychiatrist.  He is definitely delusional.  I have read so many mails from such patients on this board and heard it from others!
 
I am a professional and also hold a PhD.  I got all my degrees before coming here.  I was under no illusion that things would be easy and I would arrive here to be crowned "King of the Road"!  So, if you arrived here from Pakistan, India, Nigeria, Congo or Argentina thinking you would be met at the airport by seven singing virgins, somebody deceived you.  I know most appropriately-educated immigrants will have the same opinion.  We all moved here to seek a better life for ourselves and the coming generation, because we thought our native countries would not offer the same opportunities. 
 
If you got here and those expectations were not met, you have one of three options: go back to your country, go to another country, or sit down here and fight it out.  Fighting it out may mean choosing a new direction for your life, even if that requires going to start from high school.  If you were a physician in Bangladesh and expected to come here and be allowed straight into their hospitals, sorry your education was not complete.  A complete education should have taught you that the systems are different even if the human body is the same all over the world.  That is the reason medicine men are not allowed in hospitals in Africa even though they know the best medicinal plants to cure several diseases!  If Canada was the heaven many people thought it was before they came here, it was an extreme case of hyperbloated ego syndrome to think that the place was not filled up before now, only waiting for your majesty to arrive.  So, if you chose the third option, get on with it and make a living for yourself and the coming generation.  Your children and great-grandchildren will not forgive you if you fail.  If you can't do it, swallow your pride and return to your country.  It is that simple.  This country was built by people who had no other option but to stay here and change their situation in spite of all odds.  Imagine having to farm snow-filled fields in the Prairies 200 years ago.  Many died while doing that, others ran away to warmer countries, some escaped and returned to their birth countries.  They took important decisions.  It is our turn to do likewise and stop whining.
 
However, I must say that there are some clear deception about what Canada is about.  There is always this image of a peaceful, prosperous and extremely tolerant country painted about Canada all over the world.  Whoever is in charge of the National brand name should also win a major award!  Again, I have lived here for 5 years and that gives me some authority to make statements about Canada.  I am Canadian.  But, I must tell whoever is reading this the truth: Canada is not a peaceful country.  It is far from being prosperous.  To say the most disturbing, Canada is the least racially tolerant western country I have ever lived (I could talk about a few Western countries from experience).  On the surface, you are initially made to believe the hype about racial tolerance in Canada.  As you move around from day to day you will suddenly realize that apartheid South Africa couldn't have been worse.  People actually target you in every way if you are racially different.  You are immediately assumed to be stupid and of no value whatsoever, without any interaction with you.  This is not something done just by government, it is simply the way of life of the people here. 

People still ask me where I came from.  If I say Alberta, they ask the question again with the word "originally".  I understand it when people see my skin colour and hear my accent as a basis for this question.  However, if you still ask my pre-teen daughter who speaks exactly like you the same question, there is a problem.  The problem gets magnified if you are not asking the same question from a girl who just arrived from Russia and could barely speak English or a fair-skinned boy with a clear Cockney accent.  Similarly, if you are Chinese, you are assumed to be extremely smart (especially good in the Mathematical Sciences) and hardworking but likely to be a bad driver.  If you are Indian, your are a computer guru and eat a lot of onions.  If you are a muslim, and have beards, you are a terrorist.  If you are African; you smell, you are extremely stupid, likely to sell drugs, you are lazy and waiting for government handout, you should work in the cleaning department of the hospital etc!  These are the day-to-day prejudices that occur in Canada.  I live in Western Canada and hope it is because the so-called "red necks" live here.  By the way, my neck has also probably become red because I believe in many of their principles here except the issue of subtle racial discrimination, something I don't want to generalize to a specific political leaning.  My feeling is that there is this general phobia about being different.  The government should engage in an extensive educational campaign first to address this issue before investing in immigration.  Take it or leave it, the world has more coloured people now and they will continue to appear in increasing number on Canadian streets in the coming years. They will grow stronger and succeed in spite of all odds.  Please, think of the danger of the so-called "reverse racism" in Canada by the year 2150AD!

 
The conclusion of the matter is that Canada is a place where an immigrant can build a better life for himself and his generation if he works hard.  However, what I am saying is that hardwork is not enough.  If you happen to be different as a result of your name, religion, skin colour, language (accent), every effort to succeed will be actively suppressed by the fair-skinned majority who think they are superhuman.  This is the reason it should NOT BE CANADA for any visible minority thinking of moving to a new country.
 
A word is enough for the wise.
Yemi Oyabinu (Edmonton, Canada)
oyabinu @ yahoo.ca

 

 

December 03,  2006

Dear fellow Canadians!

I am a Canadian, one of many who feels cheated and lied to by the Canadian
system, so I had a very limited budget to spend on a holiday. I spend most
of my money on taxes, fees, and living expenses so enjoying actual traveling
through this scenic country is mostly reserved for foreign tourists or
wealthier Canadians.

First my family who were educated business immigrants from Holland/The
Netherlands were cleverly fleeced and ripped of by a well designed industry
which awaits immigrants to separate them from their lifetime earnings.
My parents had owned a Hotel in The Netherlands and bought two licensed
Travel agencies as an investment and pre-requisite to get their Canadian
citizenship.

I think that Canada is a type of bureaucratic, fake democratic dictatorship.
The average people are wonderful and the nature and scenery are spectacular
but the ruling class, supported by their throngs of lawyers and media
friends are tyrants and slave drivers.

WARNING > potential new immigrants! Canada and its henchmen are scouring
the Earth for new slaves with empty promises and armed with propaganda
materials of wide open spaces and alluring fake possibilities, because I and
quite a few friends are Canadian slaves who have escaped.

1) Oh you need Canadian experience!
2) Oh there are more jobs in Eastern Canada!
3) Oh move to the west coast, the tourism industry and Film industry is
booming there.
4) If you just had a Canadian education!
5) Maybe you should get a Masters Degree or PHD!
6) Go back to school and learn computer IT!
7) Learn an extra language, that will help. (Most of my friends speak 4 or 5
languages near fluently)
8) Oh you're sick and need medical insurance, sorry but there is a
mandatory 6 months residency requirement for this province.
9) Why don't you join a job search club? Oh you already have 4 times well
this one is different!
10) You should be willing to take any job, and then you'll find
opportunity!
11) Well, it just takes a little time and everything will work out!
12) Perhaps you have been looking in the wrong industry or sector.
13) Maybe you need some help with your resume skills and employment search
tactics.

Sincerely Hugo Stam
Soon to be EX Canadian
hugostam2005 @ hotmail.com

 

 

December 02,  2006

Is a funny Country Canada, they think of them selves as a liberal and left oriented society, the left means Union jobs with benefits and pensions, they are the Aristocracy of the Country, you don' t need brains for this jobs, just contacts or family members, this is the aspiration of any ordinary Canadian, any thing else will be less than the real thing.

So they know that new immigrants are far away from getting this jobs, this has created an unproductive bureaucracy with good wages, miserable workers (they claim more sick days a year than working days) and a lazy attitude supported by the Canadian charter of rights, as an immigrant I support Harper more than the hypocrites of the NDP or the pickpockets of the Liberals. For the ones who want and need to remain in the Country, continue to open new web pages, continue to write and get involved in politics (it pays better than a janitorial job).

I have kids with a Canadian and have done the wrong choice of having them in Canada, so if you are in love with a Canadian better have the kids somewhere else in your original country, your Canadian family will not help you in any thing at all, they will rob you as the same of the rest of the country. Many years of harm and misery waiting for my kids to be 14 and take them forever out of Canada. I'm European and I sympathize with all you immigrants.

Diane Zimmerman
dianezimmerman911 @ yahoo.ca

 

 

November 30,  2006

You overlook one very important fact and that is that we real Canadians do not want you immigrant foreigners here !
We have been too generous , let too many of you third world invaders here and you have proven one thing and that is that you are a bunch of whiney losers.

Go away !!! leave us alone.

We want European immigrants we do not want our culture or lifestyle smudged with yours. Most of you people we only ever saw in National Geographic, now you live across the street.

If your culture is so great, immerse yourself in it, in your country not ours. We were doing fine till the Liberals opened the floodgates.

Get out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ps. by the way, no one ever gave anyone anything here in Canada. Everyone who has come here for the past 200 years worked their tails off. The recent immigrants have an outrageous sense of entitlement.

Canada was 95 % white until the mid 1980's, and still is, outside of a couple of the major cities. You forget that , excuse us if this invasion is all foreign to us

Brian Jackson
sempron141 @ yahoo.ca

 

 

November 28,  2006

What most Canadians simply can not understand is that the Canadian government invites thousands of highly skilled immigrants to Canada under the false assumption that we and our skills will be used. We did not come to Canada fleeing from war, disease, hunger or political instability. We, professional immigrants, were told by the Canadian government that we would be able to get professional jobs in this country. We were deceived, lied and fooled in a very bad way. Canadians have all the right to chose the immigrants they want, and they have all the right to protect their country from foreigners, but they do not have the right to lie to people. In other words, if Canada needs factory workers and cleaning staff they should say so since the very beginning. They should honestly say that there are no professional jobs for new immigrants, no matter how well qualified. Does that word honesty- rings a bell?  How can Canadians ask for honesty if they routinely act in such a dishonest way?

They tell us to earn our way up?  But what have we being doing most of our lives? So then our skills and knowledge are worthless? Are they good to immigrate but not to get a half decent job? Is math or computer science different in other countries? What about people (like me) who studied a masters or even a PhD in Canada and gets treatment worse than a Canadian high school drop out? Yeah, even with a Canadian masters, 7 years of international work experience and 3 languages I had to take orders from Canadian high school drop outs during my last months in the country? So Canadian universities are worthless or are we, just for being immigrants?  And we were willing to work for the benefit of Canada and pay all those hefty taxes…!  Canada is a great country, but only for Canadians and immigrants willing to work in menial jobs for minimum wage for the rest of their lives, not a good country for serious people looking for serious opportunities. What a waste of potential!

Most skilled immigrants are hard working and very professional people who do not expect things for free or a land of milk and honey. But there is a huge difference between having a hard time getting ahead in a new country (most of us expected that, we are not naive) and suffer a systemic discrimination that makes nearly impossible to get forward. It is also impossible to make Canadians understand this, they are simply very stupid.  Even their top government officials recognize that professional immigrants perform better in every parameter (education, health, respect for the law) than most native Canadians. These guys also do not understand that those German and Polish immigrants who came here decades ago were not professional people invited by the government, they were decent people who were fleeing war and hunger and had nothing to offer but their labor. Our situation is completely different, we have more options, we are more mobile and can get out quickly if things turn out to be a scam.  Canadians think that places other than North America, Western Europe and Japan simply can not offer a decent standard of living for human beings and are plagued by poverty and anarchy (again, they are very ignorant), and they truly believe that they are the best this world has to offer, yet most of them have not traveled out of their own borders! Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance?  These people get their education from TV shows!

Get out of Canada now! Still worse, Canada is packed with rednecks for whom is very easy to say something brilliant such as “get out if you don’t like it here.”  Well, the redneck had it right this time. There is not a chance you can win. Get out of Canada now.  I’ll give you an example of the hopelessness you’ll face if you stay there: even the most brainless Canadians recognize the fact that their health care system faces a serious shortage of professionals, right? But what do they do with the doctors, surgeons and nurses they get from abroad? They send them to wash dishes, drive taxis (if they are lucky) and sweep floors, just like the rest of the immigrants?  Ask yourselves: If they mistreat and routinely discriminate the kind of professionals their economy desperately requires, what can happen to the other highly skilled immigrants who are not in such a critical demand?  You see my point?  Get out now, cut your loses, that country is not worth it!  These fake people will never give you a real opportunity, not even in their own interest! Get out of Canada now! Not next month or next year, get out now!
 
I sent a message to this forum a few months ago (see message on February 15, 2006) with an advice I’ll send again: “I'm using Canada merely as a step and I encourage all of you to do the same. Take whatever you can from this country and then leave. Let these hypocrites to enjoy their awful winters and their 'perfect' country.

Well, I did. I left Canada for good last July 1 and now I’m living in California. It was the best way to celebrate Canada Day that I could think of. That’s the best and only way you can deal with these people. I simply used my Canadian citizen status to get a decent job here. I miserably lost 2 years of my life in Canada, and Canada lost about CAD $50,000 in me (I got much lower tuition fees at school, health services, French classes, library services, tax reimbursements, etc., well, at least I did not leave empty handed).  People, take the redneck’s advice: get out of that country, move to the USA or go back to your home land.  Life is way better here in the USA than in Canada...  Earn more money, pay less taxes, get a much better weather and get also a little and elementary respect. And they don’t tell lies: they are not inviting people to come here, they don’t lie about your professional possibilities, you can expect difficulties to get into the professional jobs, they have rigorous and strict immigration and work policies. But in the end is the best you can do. People in the medicine, engineering and IT sectors can get TN or even H1B visas very easily if they are Canadian citizens, and that is the only real use for your Canadian passport.  Lots of people are doing exactly that, just take a look at the following links: 

By the way, you’ll never hear an American asking for “American experience”, that’s nothing but Canadian crap; their only concern is “are you able to do the job or not?”  And that is the way it should be.

We have a moral obligation! We have a moral obligation to tell the truth, to spread the word about the major international scam that Canada is committing. We have to stop our fellow professional countrymen from coming here. Please spread the word about the real face of Canada and help to save lives and careers. Will I ever go back to Canada? Not even for an off schedule flight detour, knock on wood.

Guillermo Alvarez
California, USA
guillermoalvarez21 @ yahoo.ca

 

 

November 26,  2006

Leaving Canada, the best thing a Canadian can do.

Here are some of the reasons that I am a firm believer for the past 10 years or so that for a Canadian, the best thing to do for your life, career and future is simply -> to leave Canada.

Realities of Canada:

1) No jobs, No opportunities

Yes, this is true. Why? Because the market is completely saturated. There so many Bachelors degrees being pumped out of Universities across Canada that a B.Sc. or a B.A. has become completely useless.

People graduated after four or five years of undergrad and find themselves unemployed. Or (if they are lucky) working full time at the place they were working part time as a student.

Canada is a dry well for jobs, no matter how many times you throw in the bucket, you won't come up with any water. Some mud perhaps.

2) Immigration patterns have ruined the country

Yes, this is true. Unlike the U.S. that invites people to all places. Canada has people clustered in only three area -> Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver.

What is the result of this? Thousands and thousands of Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc all jammed packed liked sardines in small areas.

They are working in factories, driving taxi cabs or delivering pizzas. Then when their children grow up they have the immigrant dreams, but since there are so many of them in these areas that all the spots are taken!

3) Why do this new generation stay in Canada then?

Good question. The answers are surprising simple -> insecurity, lack of self confidence, being very stubborn, refusal to face reality, false belief that Canada is better, inability to leave the parental home.

This is especially common among certain minorities that have a culture that promotes grown men and women to live at home with their parents.

The culture promotes elitism, where they only associate with the same type. (Further adding to the total lack of community feel that exists among Canadian cities. No assimilation or integration whatsoever.)

This new minority generation has been so brain washed by their parents, that they lack the self confidence to move to another place and achieve their goals and take advantage of the great opportunities that exist abroad. Hence, they stay and suffer in Canada.

Suraj Mukherjee
surajmukh @ yahoo.com

Coral Gables, Florida

 

 

November 22,  2006

Dear friends,

I am happy that that websites like notCanada.com is helping the point-based immigrants in exposing the canadian system impinging on dishonest and farcical claims on the international arena. When we are in our mother countries, the picture painted by the canadian embassies and immigration lawyers is entirely plethora of lies and lame promises.

I was an insurance professional in India. After coming to Canada, I started upgrading in the field of Insurance and now I am doing Fellow of Chartered Insurance Professional which is a degree tagged with Vice Presidents Of Canadian Insurance Companies only. I mean to say this degree decorates the name plates of highly placed Insurance Professional in Canada. But I am applying for entry level jobs in Canadian insurance marker but I have not received even a single offer so far. The are expecting Minimum One year Canadian Experience which I can get only when I will given an opportunity to work in this field. No body is ready to give this opportunity because insurance field is the domain of white community only. I am doing odd jobs for about three years and consistently upgrading hoping that I will break the myth one day that brown people are inferior to whites. We are not stupid but we have been compelled to fight their mental bankruptcy of feeling of 'superiority of white skins' which will drain this community one day.

Pankaj Sharma
pankajshaarma @ yahoo.ca

 

 

November 18,  2006

Dear Sir/Madam:

I am a native born Canadian and a retired police officer. You have forgotten one of the most important negatives about Canada, which should be added as #9 reason not to immigrate.

Since there are no consequences to crime in Canada, it has one of highest crime rates, including violent crime, in the western industrialized world. Check United Nations crime statistics to verify this. The Canadian government traditionally promotes Canada as a safe and peaceful society in order to attract foreign investment, but the truth is that Canada is a dangerous place to live.

Brian Cox
brianncox @ shaw.ca

 

 

November 15,  2006

Some interesting thoughts from website of William Gairdner, author, teacher, Olympic decathlon athlete and businessman (and Canadian):

"Canada in 1945 had a mere 10-15 billion dollars of federal debt accumulated in the 78 years since Confederation. Today, Canada carries over 550 billion dollars in federal debt alone, which is considered “structural” because it cannot be paid off without ruining the country.

Canada also carries many billions of dollars more in debt in the form of “unfunded liabilities” such as the Canada Pension Plan, which is a debt instead of a resource because no actual pension fund exists. It is a Ponzi, or a Pay-Go scheme in which younger workers pay for the retiring old, every day.

As a consequence of all this, almost a third of every tax dollar raised in Canada is used to pay debt. In effect, we are all asking future generations - citizens not yet born - to pay for our current consumption, as we are paying for much of the consumption by our predecessors. This is an immoral obligation laid upon all future Canadian children from which they cannot escape."

ciaocanada @ hotmail.com

 

 

November 08,  2006

To whom it may concern,

I heard about your website from watching W5 on CTV. I could not forget this
website and I will tell you the reason why.

I am a Canadian citizen born in Kitchener and raised in Mississauga. I was
born to two parents who immigrated to Canada, my mother came to Canada in
1969 and my father in 1971, the Trudeau era. I read everything in your
website and I strongly agree to everything in your website. However I think
that justifying the cold weather as a reason not to come to Canada is not
rational, man cannot control mother nature. All other reasons such as job
discrimination I agree to 100%!

Although I am a Canadian citizen born and raised, I will admit that I love
Canada for its heritage, diversity, natural landscape, and civil liberties.
Unfortunately I as a Canadian citizen has faced the same dilemma as several
immigrants of colour. Yes I have received educational opportunities and I am
also licensed to work as a teacher, but the reason why I was faced with the
same dilemma as immigrants is simply because I am a black person.

If Martin Luther King was still alive today, he would have written a speech
to shame down Canada. Unfortunately he is dead, his wife also passed away, and
we have nobody to really stand up in tactful radical action for immigrants
who are ostracized and disenfranchised.

It is because of this kind of disenfranchisement why I as an educated black
professional teacher decided to pack my bags and start my teaching career in
Korea, because Korea has opened the doors of opportunity for me and I owe a
lot to Korea because of that.

I don't want to tarnish my country, I wear the poppy to remember the
sacrifice that our Canadian soldiers made for freedom, but unfortunately
Canadians are tarnishing our freedom to perpetrate job discrimination
against people of colour who are either immigrants or black men like me who
are Canadian citizens.

Now that I am working in Korea, I am living very comfortably in a nice
apartment (bigger than the one I had in Windsor, ON) and I do not have to
pay rent as a foreign worker. My utility bills are far more cheaper than
what I would pay in Canada, and the public transportation system is more
superior.

Now and then as I meet the people of Korea, I will tell them, even their
young people that if they learn English very well, if they want to leave
Korea and live somewhere else, my recommendations for them would not be to
live in Canada, neither the US. I would recommend for Koreans to live in the
UK, Australia, New Zealand, Northern Ireland, South Africa, or any country
where English is spoken and they could get opportunities there for high
paying jobs. If Koreans ever wanted to come to Canada, it should have been
30-50 years ago, but not now! Canada's immigration system is in a complete
mess! Shame on Canada, shame on Stephen Harper, I am so embarrassed to be
Canadian because of this mess!

Sheldon Walters
formerly in Windsor, now in Korea
sheldonw_7 @ hotmail.com

 

 

November 04,  2006

I wanted to write in, in support of your website.

I would like to sincerely apologize for the experience that more recent immigrants (past 15 years) are having in Canada. As a third generation Canadian I am deeply troubled by the failure of my nation to provide the same opportunities to new immigrants that were provided to my family. I do want to provide a little context and address the top eight reasons for not immigrating to Canada.

I truly believe that it is a symptom of not government in general but rather the Liberal Party of Canada. We have just recently barely removed them from power and have a minority government under the Conservative party. The Liberals were the most corrupt government in Canadian history under former Prime Minister Jean Chretien. They truly are a political party of lies who stand for absolutely nothing.

I wish I could write in and dispute the claims on your web-site but the fact is that I can not. I have friends who are immigrants to Canada and they talk of their struggle. My wife and I are third generation Canadians and our families have been in Canada over a hundred years but even we are leaving Canada. She has her PhD in Neuroscience and I myself have 2 degrees. We are leaving Canada for New York where she has been recently offered a position and I myself will have a mid-level position with a firm in the financial district in New York. The fact is that I will be making over twice as much even in a mid-level position in New York, while my wife's opportunities are even higher.

We can not wait any longer for tax policies to improve but perhaps others can. The Liberal Party of Canada is the greatest threat to the livelihoods of all Canadians new and old in my view. They are the greatest threat to the nation as a whole. They have created division throughout the nation as it serves their interests. East vs West, French vs English, Natives vs non-natives. Even if you do not agree with the Conservative party then vote for the NDP party, at least these two parties stand for something that is clear. The Liberal will flip flop with whatever they believe will get them elected, they will say anything and then lie further in a deluded attempt to maintain their power rather then act for the good of the country. New immigrants have gotten a very clear taste of these lies. Remember the Liberals have been running Canada for the last 15 years. Top eight reasons:

8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
Again this is the Liberal Party of Canada, they have formed the immigration policy and the idiocy of it is clear. Canada needs blue-collar workers, Canada does not need any immigrant professionals. There are many blue-collar labor level jobs, so if you are a new immigrant who is a welder or willing to do labor so that your children will have access to a better life. Canada still may be ok, but if you are a professional there is no opportunity, even my wife and I are leaving for far better jobs and far lower taxes in the United States as we are both professionals in our fields.

7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
Your are right, the price of real estate is exploding in Canada and if you do not own a home now, then entering the market at a working class salary is slipping out of reach. I do want to mention though that if you are willing to move to small cities throughout Canada the cost of living relative to your wage may still be ok. I admit that wages in Canada are largely out of step with other countries, this is tied into high taxes though.

6. Health Care Crisis.
Right with this one but this problem is very difficult. I don't know if any political party can solve it. The true culprit here is the same enemy Tommy Douglas had when he fought to create public health care in the first place. The real enemy is the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada. This body purposely maintains a low supply of doctors, artificially high education standards (keeping out immigrant doctors from entering the system) so that doctors can continue to have high salaries Trouble with taking on doctor's though is that when they walk off work, people die and that is political suicide.

5. Very High Taxes.
Your right, but again this is the Liberal Party of Canada, I have hope that it will fall under the Conservatives, they have already lowered the GST a little. NDP may not change this but it is up to you how important this is and how you want to vote. Just don't vote for the Liberals.

4. Money Hungry Government.
Again Liberal party, when you are taking money and literally handing it in envelopes to your Québec elite what else is there to say...

3. No Culture.
Your right but again it did not use to be like this. Before Trudeau and if you talk to any Canadian that was here before 1970 there was a very clear Canadian Culture. Think of Australia. We knew who we were, we were a British colony with a French minority. Now no one knows what Canada is because the idea of our British history was so offensive to Liberal Elitists that it had to be destroyed and replaced with another Liberal idea "multi-culturalism" which is essentially a code word for no culture at all for Canada.

2. Worst Weather.
Yes, Canada has the worst weather, that is why we skate around and play hockey. : )

1. No Jobs.
There are jobs but they are not professional jobs. I am not going to argue, my wife and I are leaving because we have professional jobs but they pay poorly after we are done paying twice as much taxes as we would in the U.S.

The Liberal Party though has mesmerized the Greater Toronto Area / Ontario who now believe that the source of Canada is the very party who did such incredible damage to it. I have hope and we may move back here when we retire but we certainly plan to make our livings in the United States hopefully in 30 years Canada will be fixed but it will never be fixed under the Liberals. Vote in the NDP or the Conservatives, anything but the Liberals.

Harvey Delaine
New York, USA
hsdelaine @ hotmail.com

 

 

October 31,  2006

Canada is desperate for bodies.

Some years ago there was a study done on Canada’s declining population. Later it turned into a joke, that being ‘by the year 2150, there will be only one person left in Canada, it would be a woman living in the Northwest Territories’

But kidding aside, the trend they studied was indeed happening. For a few reasons I will outline below.

First, on average, white Canadians do not have as many kids as people in other countries. Perhaps it is culture or the high costs associated with raising a child in Canada.

Second, people are not as interested in immigrating to Canada, like several decades ago. The rest of the world has caught up, while Canada has remained dormant.

Finally, born and raised Canadians are leaving the country for better jobs and opportunities elsewhere. Many (most) never return.

So Canada is left in a situation where they desperately need people to come and pay taxes to support their economy. So that is why the government so frantically tries to lure and recruit people from overseas.

Canadian immigration officials, Canadian immigration lawyers hold seminars in big five star hotels all over the world. They do their very best to lie and attract the richest foreigners to come to Canada.

After these foreigners arrive in Canada however, the reality is a different world.

Erik Manso
formerly of Ontario (now in California)
emanso @ yahoo.com

 

 

October 25,  2006

Wow,

I have never read so many comments from clueless people in my Life...

Why are you under the illusion that Canada owes you something???? What you
should of researched or had the common sense to fathom, is that Canada could
give you the opportunity for a better life...

The wording here is precise...COULD....Not should or will!!! Could...

What you make of that opportunity is up to you. But if it doesn't work
out...Hold your hands up and be honest...Say(for whatever reason) you need
to justify to yourself..i.e Government conspiracy, racism, unlucky, etc and
move the Hell out..

Making room for more deserving, grateful people....

The rest of us Canadians live in 12 bed roomed castles, drive Mercedes and
are chauffer driven to work....

Why should you get that right away when we have toiled our whole lives in
this country and you are newbie's????

If you are Lucky enough to move here have realistic expectations and assume
you will not be given opportunities till you have earned them.

Foreign qualifications, although recognized by Immigration will not be
recognised by any one else..Look into bridging qualifications or resitting
the same qualification in Canada.

You have lived here for all of 2 minutes...what makes you so special????
Be realistic, learn the language, pay your dues, acclimatize and most
importantly...

If you don't like it or it hasn't worked out for you...Leave..Canada owes
you NOTHING....

Mark Edge
mountieuk @ hotmail.com

 

 

October 24,  2006

Your comments posted on notcanada.com don't seem to make any sense at all.
They clearly lack valid arguments and by the nature of your thoughts you're
also misinformed. However, I felt compelled to respond for several reasons.
First, if you always write in that fashion and claim you have a bachelor's
degree, I would really doubt about your attendance to any well-established
Canadian University. (By the way, it is properly written "bachelor's", when
writing in first person. Not bachelor) e.g. I have a bachelor's degree!
Additionally, you should get the "facts" and inform yourself better before
making any claims referring to the so-called "Canadian standards". Do your
homework.

If you're to speak about "STANDARDS" you'll notice (by reading and
researching) that many countries have equal, if not higher "STANDARDS"
compared to Canada's in many areas such as education, science, technical
research, engineering, medicine, and even arts.
Not to mention that the great majority of scientific and technological
advances are imported into Canada, and not developed in Canada or by
Canadians as you may think.

The fact of the matter is that expressions and views such as "Standards",
"Go back to your country", and "Moving to Canada is a step forward and a
privilege, not a right" are being used by people like you, when no other
intelligent arguments can be set forward, and makes the rest of us
(Canadians) who believe in an open and fair society (such as Pierre Elliot
Trudeau did) look like idiots.

Patrick Kavanagh
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
djcoma @ msn.com

 

 

October 21,  2006

Hello "Not Canada":

Well your name says it all doesn't it? If you don't like Canada, why move here? Move to the US if that's what you prefer. Or better yet, move back to your home country. There's a reason why doctors or engineers or lawyers can't find work here right away, it's called "STANDARDS". Obviously, Canadian standards for professions is going to be different than foreign countries, we are a developed nation. I work in a pharmacy company, and the comment I hear most is how different Canadian pharmacy is different from back home, from foreign pharmacists, and they can't wait to do their upgrading to become licensed here. In the meantime, they go to community college and become pharmacy technicians. They actually know that they have to work for what they want to have in their new country, they don't just expect everything.

They know that coming to Canada is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT. Even if immigrants have to work as a taxi driver or in a factory, guess what? In Canada you have freedom, quality of life, no human rights abuses and a rich country that will look after those down on their luck. Quite a difference from many countries in Africa and Asia where human rights abuses and lack of freedom are a daily fact of life. Moving to Canada is a step up in itself! This is a country where if you work hard, you will be rewarded. Immigrants with your attitude don't want to work hard. Foreign experience or education by itself doesn't count? No it doesn't, Canada and Asia and Africa are totally different places in the world, so obviously you will need Canadian experience and education and upgrading.

Yet there are people who expect to be able to come to Canada and practice their profession right away? I'd be scared to be treated by a foreign doctor or pharmacist without them being trained to Canadian standards. When foreign professionals are trained to Canadian standards, they are able to practice. For those too lazy to upgrade, then yes they will get the jobs that Canadians don't want. Why should I as a Canadian professional be displaced by someone who just came here when I've been here all my life and paid taxes all my life? I haven't gotten a free ride, and I'll be damned if someone not even born here gets one over me. Work for what you have like Canadians do! Be honoured that you're finally in such an exceptional country! I thank God I was born here vs. somewhere in Asia or Africa every day!

I have a Bachelor degree from Canada, and while it took a while for even me to become established in my career, now I will have no problem. It's called working your way up, and while professional immigrants seem to want the world handed to them on a silver platter at the expense of actual Canadians, it doesn't happen that way. The day I am displaced from my professional job by someone from another country with no Canadian experience or equivalency, when I worked my ass off for my experience, is the day I move to the US.

I am not against immigrants in any way. Born here, my parents and grandparents were immigrants. We are a country built on immigrants. But just like the generations of Europeans who built this country and had to work their way up for what they have, you're damn right that current immigrants from Asia and Africa will have to do the same. Work for what you have the way Canadians do!

Thanks!

Christine S.
leadlady @ hotmail.com

 

 

October 20,  2006

Hi everybody,

I am glad, that I came across this site and share a few thoughts with you. I came to Canada, because of the slow economy in Germany. And the canadian consulates are doing a great job selling and promoting Canada.

Canada is only looking for low cost worker that can fill in the positions, that no canadian would take. I am very happy about the fact, that I have kept my family back in Germany and not moved over here. After being confronted with the real world, I can only say, CANADA is not worth it. I will not stay. I thought we had a drug problem back in Europe.

I will not support this system with my skills and hard work and all I say is: Don't listen to any immigration agent.

Hope, that you all make the right choice

Harald - Alberta
haraldengling @ aol.com

 

 

October 13,  2006

Hi there,

I have seen your website and I really admire your effort to help people immigrating to Canada to avoid a real waste o time, money, and effort.

But, I think that your website has no use if you do not include it in google and yahoo searchs, for example, when someone searchs for "immigration canada" it would be great if your website appeared in the search list because that way people could notice it and read it.

I personally would not have had immigrated to Canada had I seen your website before, in my country the canadian and quebec consulates are really "selling" the idea that Canada is a great place to live and work and that is the reason why so many people go there, waste their time and money just to end up going back.

This situation helps canadian local people live at a luxury level, that is very unfair.

We should try to lower immigration into that country because it is a total fraud. Canadians are totally fake people, they just take care of their image a lot, but inside they are all racist.

I hope something can be done to place your website in google and yahoo searchs so that people can see it ahead of time and do not immigrate there, to the land of "waste"

Thanks

J.M. Red
jmred @ web.de

 

 

October 05,  2006

"There is hunger crisis in the GTA." taken from www.dailybread.ca click on the "Who's hungry..." link. The Daily Bread Food Bank is a food bank in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

So sad that there are so many hungry people in this "first world" nation. Yeah, any proud Canadian may say "this is a great country, that's why we have the food banks to feed the lazy people." Well, some news for you, proud Canadian: most of these people aren't lazy, they are working but the money they make is so low that it isn't enough to feed their families.

"Working Poor: More than half of the people who are working and using food banks earn a wage of $10/hr or more. However, food bank clients work an average of just 25 hours per week. Most say they want more hours, but are unable to get them..."

"Immigrants: Over 40% of food bank clients in the GTA are foreign born. Nearly half of these immigrants have been in Canada for 4 years or less. Many are prevented from working in their fields because their professional credentials aren't recognized. They are unable to find jobs, even though close to 2/3 have post-secondary education..."

To the people who are planning to apply for Immigration Canada (or even thinking about it): another BIG thing that this "GREAT" country has to offer is HUNGER for YOU and YOUR FAMILIES!!!

Moving South is an option for those who are stuck here. Just wait 3 years, get your Canadian passport, and apply for a job and work permit in the USA. In my case, I've just got one more year to leave this living hell.

Christian Collantes
collanteschristian @ yahoo.ca

 

 

October 05,  2006

I have been reading posts of disillusioned immigrants sharing their bitter experiences and responses by regular Canadian citizens partially agreeing or vigorously defending Canada. I am sure that complaints posted by those immigrants have merit but the irony to me is that the members of the least prejudiced and probably most immigrant friendly nation have to defend their country while the actual culprit is the Canadian government and not a regular Canadian citizen.

It took me only a few days and not weeks or months that Canadian government is an inefficient one that breeds complacency. The government of course is failing the immigrants by not having a coherent and functional system to help them get jobs related to their skills. It’s primarily government who is responsible for a high cost of living. Just about everything here is more expensive here than in US and I wonder why

1. Canada produces and exports oil to US and yet it’s more expensive here than in US.
2. A decent house with upgraded appliances and furnishings in Texas or in most US states costs two or three times cheaper than one in suburbs of Toronto while land, lumbar or just about anything you need to build a house is available here in abundance.
3. I used to pay about $200 or $250 auto insurance in most states in US for six month period and here and it averages about $200 a month.

Yes, they have medical treatment almost for free but on the flipside its costing tax payers a lot and if only they relax the acceptance system only a bit there are thousands of immigrant’s doctors willing to join the workforce that will bring the cost per patient down and improve the quality of service. They are the same doctors who spent years in their own countries to treat people with probably more complex medical issues back there. I was told upon arriving in Canada that the medical system and Insurance companies are like a mafia here. I tend not to disagree and only add that the government is the Godfather.

I personally have no complaints to a regular Canadian. They surprise me with their tolerance towards immigrants and the culture they bring along. I just request them to please understand that it’s the government most complaints and whining are directed to or at least that’s what I understand.

One thing that I’d strongly disagree from notcanada.com is that “there are no jobs”. Availability of jobs depends on the economic process and these days you really can’t say that there are no jobs. There is gold rush of jobs in Calgary and Edmonton and in general, economy is good but yes you have to be qualified for that.

And in case you are wondering, I am an immigrant who is a native of Pakistan, lived 14 years in US and immigrated to Canada and running a successful business here. My personal situation has no bearing on my opinion but on my observation of the government, the people and the system.

Regards
Motor Head
speedxtreem @ yahoo.com
 

 

 

October 03,  2006

To Notcanada.com
 
I have been reading this forum for a while now and the posts talk about many things, but I think many have missed the point.
 
Canada, like any other country, will use what they have to make money. Some countries have produce, some countries have oil, some countries have diamonds. Canada
has something very unique, and that is 'first world country status'. Who gave this status to Canada? Lord only knows, but the fact remains that Canada has it.
 
So they will use it to make money. How? Immigration.
 
All over the world, Canadian embassies have been trained to lure foreigners to Canada. These embassies paint this picture that Canada is the greatest place in the Universe. Free health care, free education, free everything. Jobs, just waiting for you, as soon as you get off the airplane you will be hired. Because, there is a shortage of everything in Canada, shortage of doctors, shortage of skilled workers, shortage of tradesmen etc.
 
None of this is true.
 
But Canada is succeeding in luring foreigners to Canada. Why? Because they have this ‘first world country status’ and people overseas believe that this ‘status’ makes Canada better than their home countries. So they seek that (worthless) Canadian citizenship.
 
I grew up in Canada and honestly I would rather live in a second world country. I eventually moved here to the U.S. because Canada had nothing to offer me. So to those who think ‘I will move to Canada for my children’s future’ let me tell you, trust me, your kids have no future in Canada. We, the ones who grew up there, had to permanently leave the country in order to make something of our lives.
 
Dr. Bruce Lin
Queens, New York
dblinmd @ yahoo.com

 

 

Sept 21,  2006

Dear Friend Shannon Fraser,

I was going thro notCanada.com where I saw your writing which shreds anger. You are son of the soil and have a full right on what you say.

But friend is it really nice to blame the immigrants. Your government and its agencies are bringing out big adds in our country telling lousy stories of Canada. People are fooled to believe that gold coins are on the roads. Immigrants are coming from those countries where net is not popular so they are not able to verify websites. They trusts your Governments advertisements. They believe in the advertisements only where your government avoids telling about taxes. We are coming to know details only thro this websites like notCanada.com and also from the writing of the frustrated immigrants.

The writers are mostly qualified and having hands on experience having good potential demand in their country. It is because of the intelligent advertisement of your government that they were lured and is now victimized. Many are staying because of their ego. Just tell me is it fair on your government part to lure a doctor and force him to become a van driver. In this case whom do you blame?

So now you Canadians should come out in the road and ask your government to stop kidding. make it clear that professionals have no opening here in Canada. Those willing to do blue color jobs only should come to Canada. Since the Government is elected by you we blame you for this way to earn foreign exchange at the cost of innocence of migrants.

With best wishes.
Yours loving friend

Subroto Sarkar
India
kittu_pondy @ hotmail.com

 

 

Sept 18,  2006

I find it rather funny when Canadians boldly claim that they have the best city in the world, namely Vancouver. I lived in Vancouver and let me tell you that it is very far from being the best. Here is the list of the serious problems I can think of in that city:

1. Crime/Drugs

Being a port city, drug trafficking is a big problem in Vancouver. It tends to be the hub for a lot of the drug traffic. This leads to crime such as property theft which is very prevalent throughout the city. Many cars and bikes are stolen daily. Houses are broken into regularly. Most of the thieves are after property where they can sell it for quick cash.

2. Increasing real estate prices

It is becoming increasingly expensive to live in Vancouver. A lot of real estate has doubled in price over the recent years. It is getting outrageous. This is not a good situation for the average working civilian. Back in the old days, a family could afford to buy a house if you worked hard for a few years. Nowadays, average citizens have to work an average of 30 years to pay off the mortgage on a house.

3. Business/Jobs/High taxes

Overall, Vancouver isn't a good place for business or finding good jobs readily. There are not many opportunities here compared to places like Dubai, New Delhi, New York, Tokyo or some of the bigger cities of the world. Our population is relatively small and the taxes are very high. The average person pays about 50% in taxes if you count all of the semi-hidden semantic words for tax (gas tax, insurance, property tax, environmental levies, license permits, income tax, goods and services tax, tips, etc.)

4. Education

People who want to learn should have the opportunity to have an education. Due to increasing tuition costs, many students cannot afford to pay for their education. This is a waste of talent.

5. Health Care

Canada does have some of the most advanced medical technologies and researchers in the world. It's too bad the system as a whole is on life support. People are dying due to the fact that there are not enough practicing doctors, nurses and hospital facilities. Some are in urgent need of critical surgery but due to the long wait lists for surgery...by the time they have an open spot for the surgery, the patient has passed away.

As a city and nation, I believe it's important that the average citizen should be able to have a reasonable job, have a little money left over each month and be able to afford to live in a house if they worked hard. However, this is becoming more of an exception rather than the norm.  

If the ones at the top continue to be selfish at the expense of the average citizens, this would eventually lead us all into a downfall. It didn't take many people at the top to ruin the once powerful USSR. It is an example of what can happen when the few people at the top only care for their own short-term benefits instead of the citizens of the nation in the long-term. People can achieve a better outcome in the long-term if they worked together as a team instead of against each other.

Andy Kim
akim74 @ uwaterloo.ca

 

 

Sept 15,  2006

Hello everyone, As an immigrant that came here in March 2001 from the USA
and after reading all the comments posted on here I thought I would like to
put in my own opinion as Canada is a free country where everyone is entitled
to their own opinion even though others may disagree with them.

I truly sympathize with the new immigrants and all that they are going
through as I know the frustration that they are going through. However hard
work and persistence does pay off. I like so many new immigrants started out
working night shifts in a warehouse. Many a time I wondered why I was doing
this when I did have a good job back home. Let me tell you this, work at it
and do not give up hope. I was there for 5 years and had a good paying job
in my field of work, a nice house (no doubt it may have been out in Milton
but never the less its HOME :)

I came to Canada with the mind set that I was willing to start at the very
bottom and thats exactly what I did. Do not go there expecting to start at
and maintain the same job and standard of living that you had in your home
country. The taxes may be high but let me tell you this... where else in the
world would you have excellent health care at the cost of $0.00. I took time
off from work for 6 months and got paid (Yes got paid for those six months)
and got to spend time with my daughter. Being from the US let me tell you
how many days you get of parental leave... NONE. Maternity leave is about 6
weeks and thats it.

Now I am back in the US and just wanted to say as an former immigrant and
now proud Canadian Citizen. Its hard but you can make it, and I am sure
there are many other success stories out there too. Just dont give up and
don't complain and work at it and you will succeed.

Please do not be racist against anyone, everyone here were once immigrants
and worked hard to get to where they are. People here are a lot more
welcoming that in the United Sates. Being bitter isn't going to solve
anything nor is it going to land you a job.

Good luck to all the new immigrants out there.

Lance Fernandes
Nebraska USA (Milton, Ontario)
lancef @ hotmail.com

 

 

Sept 15,  2006

If you are simultaneously a "visible-minority" and "language(English/French)-no-speak."

Me, I am a 2x-year-old guy who resides in Quebec.  I have two Master degrees (MSc and